No Rules BnG - It's the right thing to do.

[Abnaxus]

Oh how I missed your "the world sucks, I just want to die"-like comments Abnaxus.

You want to die ? Just suicide, it's easy.

[Husk]

rr should be played without chute

[Anubis]

Oh how I missed your "the world sucks, I just want to die"-like comments Abnaxus.

You want to die ? Just suicide, it's easy.

You make that sound like you commit suicide daily. xD

[Ramone]

1v1 roper should be played with 2 worms - its the right thing to do

rr should be played without chute

Good thinking! Finally some constructive minds! It's time for revolution!  

And yeah, while we're at it, add that U can block in roper and that U can shoot crates, add that U can use tap scripts in rr's and that U can attack without taking a crate in shopper and that U can use macros in hysteria so U can do jp+lg+F2+nade fuse+max bounce+watching a porn while U do it cause it saves ur time! In fact make all schemes no rules! Forget the history and the culture of a game and let's all commit collective suicide!

Apart of sarcasm, I'd notice that this topic is just one of many attempts to do the scheme revolution by a wrong guy at the wrong time at the wrong place.

Let me be so kind and give U a suggestion.
nrBnG is not a variation of BnG scheme. It is a completely other and different thing.
Wanna see players that's not re-aiming and throwing constantly same fuse nades? Wanna see players throwing 5s rollers and shooting straight zooks? Thinking in advance, wanna see new players in few years that have never put a tiny piece of effort to make any other shot except default 3 or 4 sec? Whatever that U wanna see and whatever U wanna make, don't mix it with BnG. Call it no-rules-Forts or w/e, make a Forts-like maps and shoot each other with straight zooks as much as U like, but don't even compare it to BnG. As I've said few years ago, if U wanna allow that kind of lame playing and make a new scheme with it, it's all fine! But don't call it BnG for f@#! sake! Call it NtD (Nade to Death) or smth and leave f@#!ing BnG to it's own.

I believe that BnG have earned that much credits after all this years (of endless bitching about it) to be the scheme which is played on a decent level at least (as much as it can).

[avirex]

Why do all you newbs think you know culture and history of schemes?

Just because its the scheme you are most familiar with, does not mean its the original scheme, the culture or the history.


if you want to voice your opinion, thats cool, but dont act like you know the"culture or history" just because your some b2b twat...

if you insist on getting back to bng's culture and history ramone, then nrbng it is! Excellent idea.. 

Besides you don't even play league, your opinion means jack shit

[Crazy]

I agree with avi. The scheme has evolved a lot over many years, and you interpret the current scheme as the "correct" one ramone. That does not give you (or anyone for that matter) the right to write in that "know-it-all" attitude. It is more provoking then informative in my opinion. I can count by hand those who are still active that have played BnG from the original scheme, I`m not one of them and neither are you.

Edit: I`m not saying that you have had to play this game since scratch to voice your opinion, I just think you should have your facts straight before going on posting like that.

[ShyGuy]

if you insist on getting back to bng's culture and history ramone, then nrbng it is! Excellent idea.. 

rofl owned!

[Kaleu]

Omg dude, sorry but...

[TheKomodo]

1v1 roper should be played with 2 worms - its the right thing to do

It is, there is 1 worm on each team smartass

Ramone you have no idea about BnG, if someone is stupid enough to stay in the same hide, with unanchored worms, then they are stupid, if they hide where they can get continous easy sitters, they are stupid.

It's much more talented than a2b, when 2 great players meet.

For example, if me and darKz were to play each other it would more than likely turn into a banking war, because we can notch perfect without missing if it's unanchored, making it harder to hit, than normal BnG.

[Hussar]

Besides you don't even play league, your opinion means jack shit

thats right.

[Prankster]

I still can't figure out if nrbng was so cool, why the hell did they change it? And if we are already here, what about intermediate, shopper, and whatever schemes there were?

Btw, avirex, who made you think that Ramone is saying what he is saying because he's b2b?

[TheKomodo]

I still can't figure out if nrbng was so cool, why the hell did they change it?

Well, myself, KRD and some other dedicated BnG players are to blame for this "style" BnG thing in Leagues no thanks to our perpetual complaining of lame BnGrs and old hatred of "laming".

[HHC]

I tried to make a scheme, but it wasn't that much of a success  



15 sec turn time, 0 sec retreat.
Unlim zooks, nades, torches, pistol, firepunch
Some clusters, petrols, girders
1 para, 1 bungee, 1 mortar, 1 LG

random island map, 4 worms per team (100hp), no rules.
random mines, 5% chance of health crates, water rise at SD.



The first game was pretty darn cool: 2012-02-14 10.52.44 [Offline] TheDeadlyCup23, Power Midget.WAgame (first turns i suck, after 10 mins it gets better, after 20 mins I make some really nice shots as both teams hold one side of the map. The gg-shot was real class (@28:25)

The 2nd, 3rd and 4th game rather sucked though. The problem I have is that I want to combine unanchored BnG with a 'fort'-kind of play (where players are seperated from each other.. 1 on each side of the map). In my games, however, (1st to a lesser extent cause of the many vertical obstacles) the team that has the upper hand in HP will naturally try to walk to the other team to finish them off in a straight zook kind of contest. I found that the defending worm is sometimes quite capable of holding his ground, while in other occassions (worm being down & on the side) the worm had pretty much no chance. In both occasions the game ended way too quick and not with nice distance-shots, but close range-pwnage  

I'm gonna have to try to find a way to work around that. Although it seems highly unlikely I will  

(unlimited teles would help, but cant do that cause of telecows..)


N.B.: in the replay I use an earlier version of the scheme. I decreased the health-crates appareance from 10 to 5% after. And added unlim pistols and fp to make getting out of holes easier.
The new scheme is attached for those who like to try it.

[Prankster]

No offence, HHC, but that scheme is just too much. Unlimited zook, nade, tele, torch, lg and fire punch is ok. The rest is unnecessary. I have no problem with sg, but if you add that, it requires a rule /don't use it to attack/. Keeping a fair distance also should be a rule, IMO. And the map is very important with nrbng. Since we can't check the seed, ppl should be allowed to refuse playing on a map, even after the game has started.

Also I think there would be a lot of complain because of lamers this time too, don't you think? There isn't a perfect scheme to fit everyone's wish.

Needs an official vote to change the scheme.

[TheKomodo]

The scheme is called NrBnG, it shouldn't have any other weapons lol, it shouldn't have cluster bombs, it shouldn't have parachute and it shouldn't have bungee, you are making a completely different scheme with this lol. It sounds nice, but it definately isn't NrBnG.

Imo, it should be the way it is, with no rules, hence, NrBnG, the name lol.

The scheme I had was the TuS BnG scheme, I put 15s hotseat time, for time to think if you gonna hide/shoot/bank/what shot you gonna use etc, inf tele, inf fp, inf drill, inf girder, bazooka, grenade, LG, Unanchored, 0s retreat, the maps I use are the t17 cavern map, delete top, fill bottom, pick maps with big dips in land and holes etc so the objects make some interesting hides, also protects against notching/sitters/etc, the best textures so far are, desert, tentacles, hell, tribal.

-forest sucks for this, not enough hides.

The reason I like it like this, when I play people for example, surgeon/lacoste/ramone/pranksta etc, we will try lots of trick shots etc, if I were to play against a notcher or someone who knows how too, and will, for example Random/darKz/Anubis/Mablak, then I will notch  (funny how they all German lol, j/k lol, but it is a coincedence haha, I know Mab is American, but his eyebrows are German, for real).

I don't see how this "laming" is such a big fuss, and I honestly feel like a stupid twat for moaning about it all these years, BnG should be no holds barred, you can learn how to notch, you can learn how to do easy nades to beat other players who play like this, a notcher vs a notcher will be a much more interesting game to watch, than 2 people who think they own cuz they hit 1 trick shot, for half damage, every 5-10 shots, or players like k1ng/roperz/maciej (no offence) who only know what is in my opinion 3-4 basic shots that they have practised over and over and every BnG is basically exactly the same shots over and over, no movement, just boring.

What is more skillful? Think about it? Being able to beat anybody with multiple styles, mastering the grenade/bazooka in every way possible to combat any situation, or being able to throw about 3-4 different kinds of shots successfully, and hitting "trick shots" once in a blue moon?

I've played about 100 NrBnG's in the last 1-2 weeks, and i've had the most fun BnG'n than I ever have, especially with Kyho and Casso, they both loved it, there were no complaints about being cheap, you didn't have to worry about accidentally doing something wrong, or falling out with a good friend because of a grenade that accidentally was a sitter, or for repeating a shot because you were both at 5hp and both really didn't want to lose, for the 1st time in a long time, I was able to get to know the person I was playing, not play like a f@#!ing robot and bore everyone, I even got plopped in 1 shot in 1 game, cuz I walked to a safe place, it's so exciting, and unpredictable.

At least think of it this way, all you haters, what do you think will appeal more to new players? People like k1ng/maciej, and what used to be myself, complaining about lame shots etc, telling you that you MUST play by their standards, which makes you feel like a total noob and like you are being treated like a child, or being able to do whatever you want, you might lose, but at least you got to do whatever you wanted to and you will enjoy it way more and maybe take an interest to it.

I definately see BnG becoming massively successful if NrBnG becomes the new classic scheme in Leagues, and I will support this no matter what, I will personally fund it and put as much time as possible into promoting it, I will do anything because I KNOW this is the right thing to do for this scheme.

I will still be running a2b for everyone who wouldn't want to play NrBnG, but would still support it, for the sake of the majority of players who want NrBnG.

I am begging you, please give it a chance...

And aamof it's even better for trick shots, cuz you can move around, if you see a cool shot, you don't have to waste a turn to tele and maybe get hit, a nice bank get ruined etc.