Tus playoffs

[Crazy]

So, I can`t reach the playoffs this season? ;P

[NAiL]

sure you can crazy, you havent reached the 50 game minimum yet.

You'd PO in 3rd with your current rating if you had.

[Chicken23]

i still dont get how phanton is seeded higher than zippo, and im seeded last. lol.

[MonkeyIsland]

lol you guys are making me confused!!

ok, tell me how the seeds must be done in these cases and I'll try to fix it.
Which player must be seeded first?

1. Player1 has more points seasonal but less overall points than player2
2. Player1 has more overall points but less seasonal points than player2
3. Player1 has more overall and seasonal points than player2:  Player1 will be seeded sooner.
4. Player1 has less overall and seasonal points than player2:  Player2 will be seeded sooner.

What do you think it must be case1 and case2?

[Chicken23]

PO#1 beer            bOr    71    42    29    59.15%    1802    1802    [Rookie]
5    Twyrfher    TaG    39    30    9    76.92%    1759    1909    [Rookie]
PO#6 ZiPpO    TdC    151    95    56    62.91%    1726    3275    
7    Dulek    CKC    29    19    10    65.52%    1718    3595    [Competent]
PO#2 NAiL            bOr    64    52    12    81.25%    1657    5176    [Field Marshall]
9    Crazy    TdC    27    22    5    81.48%    1637    1684    [Inexperienced]
PO#3 BOROTA    FUB    72    46    26    63.89%    1592    1770    [Rookie]
11    erdy`    s2k    23    20    3    86.96%    1581    1642    [Inexperienced]
12    Csongi    bT    44    33    11    75%    1543    3079    [Above Average]
13    Doritos    bOr    39    24    15    61.54%    1454    1440    [Beginner]
14    HusH     s2k    21    18    3    85.71%    1386    2042    [Novice]
PO#4 Ray            RoH    54    43    11    79.63%    1384    4873    [Major]
16    Uber     RoH    49    33    16    67.35%    1375    2011    [Novice]
PO#8 Chicken23    CKC    63    36    27    57.14%    1371    2162    [Novice]
18    xLo            WiB    45    24    21    53.33%    1355    1433    [Beginner]
19    TitiO            Wee    36    22    14    61.11%    1333    1333    [Beginner]
20    WeeM4n    che    19    13    6    68.42%    1322    2605    [Average]
PO#5 SacLamb    RoH    56    32    24    57.14%    1307    1307    [Beginner]
22    Dieg0       36    24    12    66.67%    1257    1171    
PO#7 Phanton    JEDI    222    137    85    61.71%    1241    1935    [Rookie]


so based on top 4 seasonal geting 1st, 3rd, 5th and 7th, and top 4 overall getting 2nd, 4th, 6th and 8th which it currently is its not producing the right seeds. With 50 games and 50% winning. I would of thought it looked like this..

#1 beer (1st seasonal)
#2 nail (1st overall)
#3 zippo (2nd seasonal(even tho good overall aswell))
#4 Ray (2nd overall)
#5 Burota (3rd seasonal)
#6 Chicken23 (3rd overall)
#7 Saclamb (4th seasonal)
#8 Phantom (4th overall)

The problem lies with zippo when the code is selecting the seeds, it needs to be able to read both the seasonal and overall and judge which is apprioiate? Im not sure why its not picking him up and is placing him in 6th when he should be 3rd!

Maybe because its reading nail as #2 from his overall the code is unable to read up and goes straight to bocorate thinking he is 2nd seasonal, when infact 2nd seasonal is zippo who is above NaiL.. could this be what is causing it to come up with wrong seeds?



ps. in my textbox all the stats are lined up nicely, but not when i preview or post :s

[Random00]

[...]
1. Player1 has more points seasonal but less overall points than player2
2. Player1 has more overall points but less seasonal points than player2
3. Player1 has more overall and seasonal points than player2:  Player1 will be seeded sooner.
4. Player1 has less overall and seasonal points than player2:  Player2 will be seeded sooner.

What do you think it must be case1 and case2?

My opinion:
Case 1: player2 should be seeded sooner.
Case 2: player1 should be seeded sooner.
-> Overall PO seeds: 1,3,5,7; Seasonal PO seeds: 2,4,6,8 (tho I prefer a system like I previously posted )

But another important case is if someone is in the overall top4 AND the seasonal top 4.
Then he should be seeded on the highest PO seed. Means if someone is overall #3, but seasonal #1 then he should be seeded in PO seed 2 according to his seasonal ranking.
If someone is #2 in Overall rankings and #2 in seasonal rankings then he should be seeded in PO seed 3 according to his overall ranking.

[Ray]

That makes sense, so system should take the better result of a player.

[NAiL]

Please make that playoff button that displays all the players in PO, so you dont ahve to scroll to page 6 to find the qualifiers!

[MonkeyIsland]

NAiL you've seen the 'All' link, right? ^^

[NAiL]

No cant see it, where is it?

And we have a problem... Random is 1st seasonal but now his overal rating has been taken before (so he plaes in 5th), even though its very hard to come 1st seasonal when your in the top 5 overall...

Well heres my solution, system considers the rating which will place higher in PO positions.

So it checks both ratings of a player (seasonal and overall), and puts them in the highest  PO position they can achieve given the two ratings.

Problem solved?

So for example the system would look at both of Random's ratings, see that his seasonal rating will place him higher than his overall rating, and so rank him 1st instead of 5th (which is where he deserves to be).

This makes sense I think.

[MonkeyIsland]

How do you click on different pages links? The 'All' link is the last link there:
[1]  2  3  4  5  6  >>  Last Page( 8 )  All

One idea is/was to have a formula for PO. For example as you mentioned, the people who's overall + seaonal is higher will be seeded first in the PO. But most of the time this formula will result the overall players become 1 to 4 of PO seeds. We are trying to set a match between 1 seaonal and 1 overall in the season.

I haven't done the latest solution which me, chicken and random were talking yet.

[Ray]

And also NAiL was talking about it... Monkey, this should be made simple, understandable.
And I hate to say I told you so, but I remember telling you about not to put the standings on different pages... It doesn't matter that the page is long, everybody can scroll, but loading in all pages is pretty annoying.

EDIT: lol this really sucks that Random is first in this season with a high overall point and he is listed 6th...

[NAiL]

Monkey, the solution is simple.

Right now, the system looks at the overal rating and places you 2nd if you have the 1st overal rating,  4th if you have the 2nd overal rating etc...

Once 4 places are taken, it then considers the seasonal ratings and places you 1st if you have the highest, 3rd if you have the second highest etc...

The system needs to look at BOTH the seasonal and the overall ratings, and place the player in his highest possible PO position according to the two seperate ratings.

If a player will qualify higher with his seasonal rating, the system uses that one. If a player will qualify higher with his overall rating, the system uses that one.

Another example.

System looks at Random's ratings as sees that his seasonal rating will currently place him higher in the PO positions than his overall rating. In his case this meaning he will place 1st (as he should be) instead of 6th (which he shouldn't be).

The PO positions requirerments will stay exactly the same as they are now, although the system will take the highest PO position possible, from either the seasonal or overall rating.

Its simple, you understand now?

[NAiL]

If the system worked like that then this is what the CURRENT playoff positions would be, and what they SHOULD be like according to the current PO requirements.

1.Random (Highest Seasonal)
2.NAiL       (Highest Overall)
3.Benz      (2nd Highest Seasonal)
4.Ray        (2nd Highest Overall)
5.Beer      (3rd Highest Seasonal)
6.Zippo     (3rd Highest Overall)
7.BOROTALCO (4th Highest Seasonal)
8.Chicken        (4th Highest Overall)

If you check each rating individually, this is the CORRECT way of awarding PO places according to the current tus requirements.

[Chicken23]

nail said exactly what i was trying to explain!