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Lets work on the proper 3s turn time scheme

Started by lacoste, July 08, 2012, 01:21 AM

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lacoste

#60
New changes:

- Removed Clusters
- Added 3 Drills
- Mad Cow replaced by Granny
- Teleport ammo reduced from 5 to 3

Also, now when WO is over i can make things going so i started 3s Development Cup, when its approved everybody is welcome to join.

Scheme file added to first post.
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Hussar

it looks almost like aerial with some changes.


but its fine for me lacoste.


i ll test it.

lacoste

Quote from: Berria on August 29, 2012, 12:20 PM
it looks almost like aerial with some changes.

"Almost" makes huge differences, check the scheme description anyway, i think its fair.
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Kaleu

Why u still trying to change this adorable scheme?



HHC

I just played it with Berria  :)

It's a copy of Aerial, but with Hysteria weapons  ???


You should just play Aerial instead. The flamethrower is rather useless when you pretty much always use your jetpack and the granny isn't as good as a sheep.

The crates are also missing. They make the game a little more dynamic. Without them it tends to boil down to a BnG-sort of fight between one side of the map and the other. The crates make people leave their hides and they give some benefit to the player hiding on top (and dominating the field).


If you want to have a more hysteria-kind of game you should stick to 1 sec, or 2 sec at most. 3 sec makes Aerial and if you want a scheme like that you should go with the Aerial scheme and expand or detract weapons and options from there rather than sticking to weapons that might be useful in 1 sec schemes, but that are rather pointless in a 3 sec one.

I also don't really see the point in having 2 worms more per team. It tends to boil down to 1vs1 anyway. I think it makes the game more boring than making things more fair.



Hussar

yeah, lets move aerial to classic league !!!!!!!!


lacoste

#67
Quote from: HHC on August 29, 2012, 02:35 PM
It's a copy of Aerial, but with Hysteria weapons  ???

You should just play Aerial instead. The flamethrower is rather useless when you pretty much always use your jetpack and the granny isn't as good as a sheep.

Personally i find Aerial incomplete and way too chaotic (there are people who can back me up on this). Not my style, but i allways loved the concept of 3s jetpacking scheme. Flamethrower is indeed very useful making you be aware even more where you hide, or let you shoot through terrain (we had quite a bid good turns with flame and not just simple burning). Granny isnt as good as sheep but thats not the point. Point is to actually know when and how to use it for the best outcome from high damage weapon, plus you have both LG and non LG possibilities! Should i set Salvation Army, coz its better than Sheep?. Old lady deserves something more than just an addition in popular crate schemes and so i found a place for her in this scheme, where it works unsuprisingly well. The use of SW, Moles, LG, 3s mines and SD around 20min mark, among other things also stands out in how the scheme can be played, so i wouldnt call it a copy.

Quote from: HHC on August 29, 2012, 02:35 PM
The crates are also missing. They make the game a little more dynamic. Without them it tends to boil down to a BnG-sort of fight between one side of the map and the other. The crates make people leave their hides and they give some benefit to the player hiding on top (and dominating the field).

Removing crates was the first thing to go for me. Other than that i disagree.

Quote from: HHC on August 29, 2012, 02:35 PM
3 sec makes Aerial and if you want a scheme like that you should go with the Aerial scheme and expand or detract weapons and options from there rather than sticking to weapons that might be useful in 1 sec schemes, but that are rather pointless in a 3 sec one.

Thats basically what i did. Edited Aerial and changed things to be suitable for gameplay and diverse/original for a crateless scheme. Plays totally right and serves fun every game.

Quote from: HHC on August 29, 2012, 02:35 PM
I also don't really see the point in having 2 worms more per team. It tends to boil down to 1vs1 anyway. I think it makes the game more boring than making things more fair.

More worms = longer game (by no means too long). Cant understand how could it be more boring and less fair in this scheme.

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Peja

really was hooked by aerial when it was released, cos it was fresh and something different. but after lots of games it gets boring for me. always the same to do, like jp nade drops or jp zooks (of course in addition to the casual bng part)

3s of coste fixes this with the addtional option of lg in combination with 3 s and weapons like moles or a granny. also u can do really cool plops with nice timing. guess this scheme has a much higher learning curve and also more dynamic. wormselect is also a nice tactical option.

removing crates was needed if you want to create a serious league scheme. to all people who want to see aerial in classic league: i wanna see your face when u get pawned by flames after a crate spawns right next to you or your oppoents gets a crate which makes him able to kill you cos cool weap.

anyway was very sceptic about the scheme of coste at the begining but now i really enjoy it. there are so many options, i hardly know what do in my turns :)
just try this scheme, you wont regret it. otherwise you get your money back muhahahahahe

Free

Remove Hysteria and add this.

ALREADY!

Hysteria is a disgrace to a competitive league.. and I think and hope that Hyst fanatics will like this as much/even more.

Kaleu




Turko

Quote from: Free on August 29, 2012, 10:35 PM
Remove Hysteria and add this.

ALREADY!

Hysteria is a disgrace to a competitive league.. and I think and hope that Hyst fanatics will like this as much/even more.

Agree, or remove hysteria and add nothing  ;)
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Hussar

i just meant then this looks similiar, i like ur sheme Lacoste and all ur changes, I would like to see this in classic  >:(

darKz

Can't get worse than what we have with Hysteria so why not. :D
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