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haha I played this scheme a lot with UISxFighter (he created it, didn't he? early 2010's), pretty fun scheme, but not suitable for leagues imo
also, the schemes people host in #ag != the schemes league players would play in TRL, they have nothing to do
What are your points about it not being suitable for leagues?
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The only thing about this scheme that is not competitive is because nobody tried to make a cup or something with it
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But I do think if someone hosted a cup of this scheme it would be a success, because it is damn fun and makes you laugh and think fast.
also, the schemes people host in #ag != the schemes league players would play in TRL, they have nothing to do
I think we shouldn't rely on a TRL where we would expect only TUS players to compete in it considering how a lil bit inactive TUS is : ] While I was still playing TRL:team17, I invited half a dozen new players from wormnet to this site, just so they could play with me. Then it's another thing that 98% of them didn't remain here.
But if there would be a TRL Kaos (bo3) or TRL Shopper (bo1) pretty sure if we would start hosting it on AG people would like to play with us, it could be explained that we are playing for this league, they should register here etc, new players would come. Because as of now in 2022 it seems to be Kaos is probably the most frequently hosted scheme ever. (I'm sad for this)
I would enjoy playing Plop Gum, but the HostingBuddy version known as Rubber Plop War which has less abuse of Baseball Bat. However, I know no one would play that, because people only play Kaos.
I would play Blast Zone, just because it is part of the game, and I don't remember the last time I played this scheme.
Currently I'm more busy, so don't consider my opinions so much.
I could revive the legendary official classic kaos league
Keeping supplies between rounds is an integral part of the tactics in this scheme and by abandoning this function you kill a large percentage of the interest in playing Kaos.
actually Sibasa, have you ever been to AG? If so, have you ever joined a Kaos host by others, which was not TUS kaos? then again, you can be pretty sure that 98% of players are playing 1 rounder, or 2 rounder Kaos matches, without stockpiling.
That's more fair, and makes more sense. In 1 round match, you can't say that its luck based, because a more experienced kaos player even with the shittiest spawns, and getting the worst weapons from the crates will still always defeat a less experienced kaos player. No one plays it with stockpiling, only for TUS.
And you can see how many tus league Kaos matches are being played in the past years..?? Not many, to say the least.
That doesn't happen to people who are good at rope. If you're just playing TTRR and you're really good at it, you don't need to train WxW and Roper to beat someone who isn't good at rope, so you will have 2 or 3 free wins only because of 1 skill (rope skills) in one scheme, because you will always have free wins in rope schemes against people who is noob in roping.
This is a bold assumption you can't really prove. I had to practice like 5 years to become mediocre at TTRR, and even then I can't play Roper to save my life.
I don't think so. If you are a pro TTRR player, you will be at least a good player in other rope schemes, because you know mechanics, know how to roping fast and safe etc. So, even if you don't practice wxw and roper too much, I'm sure you can beat who don't like or barely know how to touch 2 walls in roper and make an atack in SD.So, I don't consider who wins allround PO an allround player if he gets 3 free wins in rope schemes. Someone can be good in hysteria, BnG, intermediate, elite and lose the PO just because this person is not good with rope and the oponnent get 3 free wins in rope schemes.
Neither is a person that picks 3 ground schemes, but that's not the league's problem. If we had some sort of "balanced" competition, like, a lot of good Allround players, maybe PO's wouldn't look so unbalanced. The problem right now is we don't have the amount of real "Allround" players to justify having it as it is, and separating Rope from Ground probably would make it better, but I don't know.
Yes... but at least this person who master many ground schemes (elite, t17, hysteria, intermediate, bng) is much more closer to an allround player (despite not being a true allround player) then one person who wins PO just because is PRO with one main skill (rope skills).
That doesn't happen to people who are good at rope. If you're just playing TTRR and you're really good at it, you don't need to train WxW and Roper to beat someone who isn't good at rope, so you will have 2 or 3 free wins only because of 1 skill (rope skills) in one scheme, because you will always have free wins in rope schemes against people who is noob in roping.
So, I don't consider who wins allround PO an allround player if he gets 3 free wins in rope schemes. Someone can be good in hysteria, BnG, intermediate, elite and lose the PO just because this person is not good with rope and the oponnent get 3 free wins in rope schemes.
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I think that the idea of erasing schemes in turn is not ideal, because the players analyze each other before the game and, first of all, the players will exclude schemes in which their opponent is clearly strong, so some mediocre nonsense will remain in the list, and not something that pleases both players.
I propose to modernize this idea: Before starting to erase schemes one by one - the players choose one scheme that cannot be deleted, and then erase the unwanted schemes. This will keep both players interested in the upcoming games.
But still it is not correct to deprive players of the game in the schemes they want, so I also adhere to the idea of simply increasing the number of games, for example, BO9 will be optimal if we take into account the number of schemes in TFL.
Wait, is bat glitch allowed?
The challenge did not mention about a rule regarding the glitch. The original scheme made by sbs allows it, since sbs is fan of this glitch and use it in several Board Game tasks of his maps. In my replay of the second map added in this challenge, I used the glitch many times.
EDIT: also, the scheme was made before version 3.8, so it was possible to use the glitch before the update.
I would like to see this scheme without bat at some point
Yes, I was thinking about this. Not sure if eliminating the bat or just limiting the ammo. Maybe turn off Angle glitch too. My only concern about removing the bat, is that some parts would be very hard to pass on some maps, newbies could had a lot of trouble to pass these parts, but at the same time we would see more interesting combos and creative ideas, using HHG and other weapons.
Gabriel you are crazy! Massive respect
Baseball bat seems a bit OP hehe, very nice Gabriel, I liked the way you used grenades from jet pack for faster positioning the passenger worm. Your time is insane but still had some unlucky moments that could be beatable. I also liked Korydex's aimed grenades from jet pack, he used a Banana too.
TheWalrus. I don't consider myself a cheater as I didn't know I was cheating, I mean, the script was considered cheating later and I was very open to tell I was using it, never hided it.
And the T macro I just don't see how it is harmful to me or my opponent, don't know why it's cheating too.
What would happen if remaps go considered as cheating? 2 space roping considered as cheating? There is a very small barrier there to consider people cheaters.
Real cheaters are using crate spy, permanent laser sight, mine dud revealer, macros for hysteria combos.
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