well im defending him cos lukz is a nice guy , and his english sucks

specially that.

So, lol about Lukz (a.k.a. Knight, Nait, Nati, L, Lukzer) cheating. Maybe he got some games with mates or chileans, like a lot of other players had... big deal.

(ne 2 xD)

i was not the only one who left the clan that day xDD  

but anyways , it was a joke     ( happy innocents day XDDDD!!!!  its too late )

In fact we all quitted that time, even me xD

they hate me now xD!

we don't hate you ö just the emo squad xD

(warning: not a perfect english, but understandable I think xD)

This complaint isn't for a specific situation, it's for the moment of picking our scheme at clanners.

There's an analyzer here in the league, that help us to decide which scheme we could pick for gain more point or lose less, but, in MANY, but MANY times, we, clan TaG, can't pick OUR scheme because our rival says things like: "ahhh, we can't play rope games, sorry", "just default, ok?" and it's ok when that happen BEFORE of accepting to play a clanner (hmmm... yes, it's ok), but when that happen AFTER accepting to play a clanner, even with host created, without saying nothing about the schemes that they want or "can" play, is totally bullshit.

We play EVERY SCHEME that you want or can pick. We'll never be afraid to play an Elite or TTRR, indepent of our online players of that moment. Of course, in every clan there are players that have more skills in roping than default, or default than roping, but that is related to the clan's own pick, not for the rival's pick.

I hate when this situation happens, specially with clans that have player with YEARS on worms. It's ok if a JEDI says: "nooo please, no ttrr! please hysteria or wxw!", but with clans like CKC, DoH, or whoever player with a lot of experience, it's just pathetic.

Read this log of the CKC host. This is before the 1st game, which was the CKC's pick, Hysteria ( I will translate the parts on spanish that our mates are speaking to each other with "//", also I will cut parts like "xdd, or join/kicks"):

[2010-02-13 18.52.55] Lukz`TaG is joining a game on DirectIP named "Direct IP", hosted by Direct IP
[2010-02-13 18.52.58] Successfully joined game. Players are: Dulek`ckc, Lukz`TaG
[2010-02-13 18.53.01] [Lukz`TaG] hey
[2010-02-13 18.53.12] Player joined: gamboasdas
[2010-02-13 18.53.13] Player joined: Chicken23CKC
[2010-02-13 18.53.59] [Lukz`TaG] xd
[2010-02-13 18.55.06] [Dulek`ckc] what is ur pick, tag?
[2010-02-13 18.55.15] <gamboasdas> elijie xD    // pick
[2010-02-13 18.55.20] [Lukz`TaG] omg
[2010-02-13 18.55.23] [Lukz`TaG] xD
[2010-02-13 18.55.35] [Dulek`ckc] tell us ur pick
[2010-02-13 18.55.41] [gamboasdas] mole
[2010-02-13 18.55.53] [Dulek`ckc] haha, not funny
[2010-02-13 18.55.55] [Dulek`ckc] seriously
[2010-02-13 18.55.57] [Dulek`ckc] we won't start
[2010-02-13 18.55.59] [gamboasdas] wfw
[2010-02-13 18.56.03] [gamboasdas] xD!
[2010-02-13 18.56.05] [gamboasdas] nait
[2010-02-13 18.56.07] [gamboasdas] que elejimos?   // what we'll pick?
[2010-02-13 18.56.37] [Lukz`TaG] shopper o ttrr xd
[2010-02-13 18.56.39] [Lukz`TaG] alguna de esas xD   // one of those
[2010-02-13 18.56.40] [gamboasdas] ttrr
[2010-02-13 18.56.50] [Lukz`TaG] iran a llorar ahora? xd   // Will they cry now? xd
[2010-02-13 18.56.53] Player joined: Slayer
[2010-02-13 18.56.57] [gamboasdas] yo cacho   // I think so
[2010-02-13 18.56.59] [gamboasdas] xD!
[2010-02-13 18.57.01] Player parted or was kicked: Slayer
[2010-02-13 18.57.12] [gamboasdas] o iran a buscar a otro   // or maybe they'll get another player
[2010-02-13 18.57.21] [Chicken23CKC] i wont ttrr :-/
[2010-02-13 18.57.23] [gamboasdas] pa ke reemplaze a chicken    // for replacing chicken
[2010-02-13 18.57.24] [Lukz`TaG] pffff
[2010-02-13 18.57.28] [gamboasdas] no vei? xD!    // I told you xD!
[2010-02-13 18.57.35] [Lukz`TaG] pero lleva meses sin poder po weon    // but he got months without can play ffs
[2010-02-13 18.57.39] [gamboasdas] XDDD!!
[2010-02-13 18.57.40] [Lukz`TaG] con razon llegan a PO los qliaos   // that's the reasson that they reach the PO
[2010-02-13 18.57.45] [Chicken23CKC] its unfair
[2010-02-13 18.57.48] [Lukz`TaG] si todos los games son picks de ellos    // every game is a pick of them
[2010-02-13 18.57.49] Player parted or was kicked: ``OnL``Jaggu`wIB
[2010-02-13 18.57.52] [gamboasdas] lol , but its our pick dude :S
[2010-02-13 18.57.56] [Chicken23CKC] i know
[2010-02-13 18.57.58] [Chicken23CKC] but its selfish
[2010-02-13 18.58.02] [gamboasdas] what do you want? play a pick chose by you?
[2010-02-13 18.58.02] [gamboasdas] D:
[2010-02-13 18.58.06] [gamboasdas] that is unfair
[2010-02-13 18.58.16] [Chicken23CKC] i know its not cool
[2010-02-13 18.58.27] [gamboasdas] u can go for another one if you want :S
[2010-02-13 18.58.35] [Chicken23CKC] but its not cool losing our ttrr rating that players like lordhound, dulek and dubc have built up
[2010-02-13 18.58.46] [Chicken23CKC] who own ttrr
[2010-02-13 18.58.47] [gamboasdas] i dont play histeria either , but i have to play it , cos its your pick :/
[2010-02-13 18.58.52] [Chicken23CKC] well
[2010-02-13 18.59.00] [Chicken23CKC] rope + t17?
[2010-02-13 18.59.07] [gamboasdas] neither losen histeria cos u are better than me and lukz
[2010-02-13 18.59.07] [Lukz`TaG] ttrr + t17
[2010-02-13 18.59.08] [Lukz`TaG] xd
[2010-02-13 18.59.16] [Chicken23CKC] shop + t17?
[2010-02-13 18.59.21] [Lukz`TaG] ttrr + t17
[2010-02-13 18.59.22] [gamboasdas] lose* lol
[2010-02-13 18.59.25] [Chicken23CKC] or
[2010-02-13 18.59.27] [Chicken23CKC] u pick both
[2010-02-13 18.59.30] [Chicken23CKC] but not ttrr
[2010-02-13 18.59.32] [Chicken23CKC] :p
[2010-02-13 18.59.38] [Lukz`TaG] ttrr + shopper
[2010-02-13 18.59.39] [Lukz`TaG] xd
[2010-02-13 18.59.41] [gamboasdas] nait
[2010-02-13 18.59.44] [gamboasdas] con ttrr cuantos puntos ganamos?    //nait, how many points we'll win with ttrr
[2010-02-13 18.59.46] [gamboasdas] muchos?    // alot?
[2010-02-13 18.59.52] [Lukz`TaG] si    // yess
[2010-02-13 18.59.57] [Lukz`TaG] xd
[2010-02-13 19.00.00] [gamboasdas] :/ we need points
[2010-02-13 19.00.11] *gamboasdas* 54 xD
[2010-02-13 19.00.13] [gamboasdas] and wont play shoppa Dx
[2010-02-13 19.00.20] [gamboasdas] ttrr give us 54
[2010-02-13 19.00.25] [gamboasdas] go msn and get another one dude :S
[2010-02-13 19.00.39] [Chicken23CKC] we look for someone
[2010-02-13 19.00.50] [gamboasdas] ok
[2010-02-13 19.00.54] [gamboasdas] lets play histeria then
[2010-02-13 19.01.00] [gamboasdas] and after our ttrr
[2010-02-13 19.02.09] [gamboasdas] what are we waiting for?
[2010-02-13 19.02.12] [gamboasdas] oe nait pide claner en ag    //hey lukze (a.k.a. nait, lukz, etc), ask for clanner on ag...
[2010-02-13 19.02.28] [gamboasdas] si no kieren jugar nuestro pick , pco pa ellos , no jugaré lo ke ellos kieran    // if they don't want to play our pick, shit for them, I will not play just what they want
[2010-02-13 19.03.00] [Lukz`TaG] xd
[2010-02-13 19.03.54] [gamboasdas] hmmm
[2010-02-13 19.04.02] [gamboasdas] hmmm I HATE THIS !
[2010-02-13 19.04.08] [gamboasdas] how about play elite and wxw -.-
[2010-02-13 19.04.13] [Dulek`ckc] we simply won't play ttrr or wxw
[2010-02-13 19.04.14] [gamboasdas] nait culiao
[2010-02-13 19.04.18] [gamboasdas] a dude
[2010-02-13 19.04.19] [gamboasdas] you suck
[2010-02-13 19.04.21] [gamboasdas] cya
[2010-02-13 19.04.23] [Dulek`ckc] bye
[2010-02-13 19.04.25] Player parted or was kicked: gamboasdas

This is an example of what are TaG dealing it in months, nothing but bullshit at time of picking the schemes. Why I'm writing this complaint, because we aer tired of this lame attitude. We are much lower on standing than CKC and other clans, we go for every scheme, any player, we don't care about it, and we are not afraid to play your scheme. Our players are all-rounders in leagues. I have a wrist injury, all of us have f@#!ing cheaps KB but we don't care. Guaton has a very large cock (on his ass) but isn't a problem for him. gamboa, mry and others are rusty as f@#! on ttrr, but they play without crying. Sometimes our family is annoying, the cellphone, whatever,... we always play without bitching about the scheme!

Crash 's SS at T17 FTW! say YES!

One thing is "to cheat" and other is "to play better". The question is if macros, uwt, and 2 SB are cheating or not, no if they can improve your roping. For some people, experienced or not, it will help maybe, but that's another history. In sports the use of cocaine maybe will cause positive effects on your skills (at first, or maybe negative with time), however, the point there is to forbid those substances that are out of normal because they are even ilegal to get them, no because they can or not improve your skills, because in that case... creatine, protein supplement, or maybe a good pair of shoes, a new tshirt material made it on NASA, sun glasses, etc, would be cheating as well?.

- remaping it's like creatine, you are just using your body to make those taps.
- macros, uwt, C.Silkworm and shits are like an arm extension, a bionic extension or something, your body are not doing those taps.

we're ready, we won 3 (bng, wxw, roper) - 2 (elite, ttrr...).

gg bOr.

Ok, wait a minute. Huren and Nail said to my mates that they wanted to pick RR as they 2nd pick, again!

AduN said to him: that can be possible?

"yes!" they said.

"are you sure?"

yes! they said again.

[2009-10-29 22.31.25] [TaG`AduN] wxw?
[2009-10-29 22.31.28] [NAiL`bOr] ttrr#
[2009-10-29 22.31.33] [bOr`Hurenmeister] put ur motherf@#!ing map now
[2009-10-29 22.31.40] [TaG`AduN] lol
[2009-10-29 22.31.47] [Lukz`taG] xd
[2009-10-29 22.31.49] [TaG`AduN] puta no queria jugar esta wea Dx  // damnit, I didn't want to play this shit
[2009-10-29 22.31.49] [bOr`Hurenmeister] not again this
[2009-10-29 22.31.53] [Lukz`taG] pero wn
[2009-10-29 22.31.55] [NAiL`bOr] they map bash this
[2009-10-29 22.31.56] [Lukz`taG] es el mismo mapa // it's the same map
[2009-10-29 22.31.56] [Lukz`taG] sako wea  // asshole
[2009-10-29 22.31.57] [NAiL`bOr] put other map
[2009-10-29 22.31.57] [Lukz`taG] xD
[2009-10-29 22.31.59] [TaG`AduN] lol
[2009-10-29 22.32.05] [NAiL`bOr] or join me
[2009-10-29 22.32.06] [bOr`Hurenmeister] other map, scheme GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

..

[2009-10-29 22.32.43] [TaG-l-Dead-l-] can be rr again??
[2009-10-29 22.32.44] [Lukz`taG] pero ellos dicen ke si aka  // but they say that it's possible, here
[2009-10-29 22.32.45] [NAiL`bOr] can you start the game
[2009-10-29 22.32.45] [Lukz`taG] xd
[2009-10-29 22.32.50] [bOr`Hurenmeister] YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[2009-10-29 22.32.53] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.32.55] [bOr`Hurenmeister] GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[2009-10-29 22.32.57] [TaG-l-Dead-l-] are you sure?
[2009-10-29 22.33.00] [Lukz`taG] xDDD
[2009-10-29 22.33.01] [NAiL`bOr] yes

..


[2009-10-29 22.33.28] [bOr`Hurenmeister] EEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYY
[2009-10-29 22.33.30] [bOr`Hurenmeister] DONT TALK
[2009-10-29 22.33.32] [bOr`Hurenmeister] START THIS BTICH
[2009-10-29 22.33.33] [bOr`Hurenmeister] MAN
..

[2009-10-29 22.33.45] [TaG`AduN] hmmm
[2009-10-29 22.33.45] [bOr`Hurenmeister] MAN
[2009-10-29 22.33.45] [bOr`Hurenmeister] MAN
[2009-10-29 22.33.45] [bOr`Hurenmeister] MAN
[2009-10-29 22.33.46] [bOr`Hurenmeister] MAN
[2009-10-29 22.33.46] [bOr`Hurenmeister] MAN
[2009-10-29 22.33.46] [bOr`Hurenmeister] MAN
[2009-10-29 22.33.46] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.46] [NAiL`bOr] worms
[2009-10-29 22.33.46] [bOr`Hurenmeister] MAN
[2009-10-29 22.33.47] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.47] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.47] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.47] [bOr`Hurenmeister] MAN
[2009-10-29 22.33.47] [bOr`Hurenmeister] MAN
[2009-10-29 22.33.47] [bOr`Hurenmeister] MAN
[2009-10-29 22.33.48] [bOr`Hurenmeister] MAN
[2009-10-29 22.33.48] [bOr`Hurenmeister] MAN
[2009-10-29 22.33.48] [bOr`Hurenmeister] MAN
[2009-10-29 22.33.48] [bOr`Hurenmeister] MAN
[2009-10-29 22.33.48] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.48] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.49] [bOr`Hurenmeister] DONT TALK
[2009-10-29 22.33.49] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.50] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.50] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.50] [Lukz`taG] dale po dead
[2009-10-29 22.33.50] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.50] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.50] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.50] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.50] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.50] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.51] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.51] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.51] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.51] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.51] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.51] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.52] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.52] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.52] [TaG`AduN] we won bng :s
[2009-10-29 22.33.52] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.52] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.52] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.52] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.52] [bOr`Hurenmeister] DONT TALK
[2009-10-29 22.33.53] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.53] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.53] [bOr`Hurenmeister] DONT TALK
[2009-10-29 22.33.53] [bOr`Hurenmeister] DONT TALK
[2009-10-29 22.33.54] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.54] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.54] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS
[2009-10-29 22.33.54] [bOr`Hurenmeister] WORMS

etc..

So well, we lost the first rr that we played, but we were ok to play another rr as their 2nd pick. And we won it. It's funny to read Nail saying (after he lost the 2nd rr):

[00:08:29.98] [Lukz`taG] gg xD
[00:08:29.98] [TaG-l-Dead-l-] gg
[00:08:29.98] [TaG-l-Dead-l-] xD
[00:08:34.70] ••• Damage dealt: 200 to I <3 Alcohol (bOr`Hurenmeister)
[00:08:34.70] ••• 4-UP (NAiL`bOr) starts turn
[00:08:35.74] [TaG`AduN] bien ctm
[00:08:38.22] [NAiL`bOr] na cant repit rr
[00:08:38.34] [TaG`AduN] congraaaatzzzz
[00:08:38.76] [TaG-l-Dead-l-] wena
[00:08:38.90] ••• 4-UP (NAiL`bOr) fires Cuerda Ninja
[00:08:38.92] *** Remote Checksum Mismatch in Frame 25946 / 25993
[00:08:38.92] *** Player disconnected due to desynchronisation: 4-UP (NAiL`bOr)

So What did you expect? They tried to cheat on this PO making us to play a 2nd RR, scheme where they won first (and they maybe thought: yeah, we can win again another RR!), now they talk about the BnG, where we uploaded the 4 replays, and there you can see that all is legal, nothing to complain about it. It ss not strange a crash or desynch on worms, we all know that, but it's strange to make a complain and start to say " na cant repit rr" after the games.

The BnG was like this:

* 1st game:

huren 200 - nail 200
adun 179 - dead 181
desynch, rm with 200 for all.

* 2nd game ended like this:

nail 64
adun  37
desync, rm.

* 3rd game

nail started with 65
adun with 30

but adun surreded for rm due wrong possitions.

* 4th game

nail started with 65
adun with 49

they started with the same possitions as the previous game.
adun won this game. Note that Nail, in the 4rd BnG game, was like 10 minutes darksiding (even skiping 2 turns when he didn't get a good wind), and according to the rules, that's cow, but we didn't complain about it.

Darksiding is not allowed. A darkside is considered a place where you can't hit OR be hit with a nade. Simply teleport/move to another position.

Now, I want to add this:

1) General Rules, Behavior

Spamming is disallowed in the games and also on our site. You may not fluster your opponent by writing pointless materials constantly.
Insulting other players, people is always disallowed in games and also on our site.
No racial or any other discrimination is allowed on our site or in the games. Any behavious like that will be highly penalized.

[2009-10-29 22.34.20] [bOr`Hurenmeister] how much iq do you have
[2009-10-29 22.34.22] [bOr`Hurenmeister] colours
[2009-10-29 22.34.22] [NAiL`bOr] brasillian idiot

2) Lag-outs

If one player lags out and returns to the given channel, the game should be continued with handicap or restarted.

That's what we did.


So, is that kind of attitude that you want to support here on tus? avoiding the general rules, making cow, telling wrong historys about what really happened, from players that have years of playing leagues like nail and huren?

make your own conclusions.