Quote from: ANO on February 12, 2013, 11:49 AM
I was talking also about the poll... I can see only you and Macjieji so motivated, nor other wormers...
What poll?
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Quote from: ANO on February 12, 2013, 11:49 AM
I was talking also about the poll... I can see only you and Macjieji so motivated, nor other wormers...
Quote from: ANO on February 12, 2013, 11:37 AM
Answer me Free, go somewhere! xD 11 pages, let's a conclusion goddamnit
Quote from: Komito on February 12, 2013, 08:27 AMQuote from: Anubis on February 12, 2013, 04:52 AM
Free! Sign me in on that! I just played my first Clanner in Hyst today, it was literally my 2nd Hyst of all time so I would qualify as a "noob". I'd be interested in playing vs the pros of Hyst. If it's for the good of TUS I will play this abomination a few times 1v1.
Anubis, I think you would actually do well in the challenge, you have a Mablak-like mentality when it comes to dedicating oneself to things like this.
I haven't watched the game yet, but I am sure you won because both you and barman are exceptional BnG players, and very experienced at doing the right thing at the right time.Quote from: Free on February 12, 2013, 07:19 AM
Why doesn't anyone see the sentences where I suggest that let hysteria have its own league or lets modify the scheme?
Because we don't want to.
What do you want? Only the schemes you are very good at left in Classic?
We have 8 schemes, and I have personally never seen such a fair and balanced League, TuS imo is the best League WA ever had, and probably ever will have, and for me the balance of the Classic League schemes is a reason for that.
Quote from: MonkeyIsland on February 11, 2013, 10:00 PM
Free, the thread about Hysteria on TUS is way too old. You shouldn't look at it that way. Those times TUS had other problems like getting community's acceptance/approval. The leagues were so young and we were trying hard to deliver something to satisfy the majority of the community. Hysteria got fit in nicely while Intermediate got us into even more trouble. Some popular comments like "TUS is shit, they allow Intermediate!" or some point of views like this game's chat.
A lot of threads about Hysteria got created since, but in my point of view, most started out of anger of losing. Hysteria is the most played scheme on TUS. Not one of the most, it is THE most played scheme. 17,191 single games as I type this. (followed by Roper 12,235 and TTRR 11,754, check seasons info for full statistics). Removing the most popular scheme from classic league is not that easy, even if you prove that the scheme is flawed.
Personally I don't think Hysteria is flawed. A flaw in a scheme is what makes the skill level lower, or allows noobs to beat pros more often. I fail to see such flaw in Hysteria. Our great Hysteria players (off the top of my head) are Gabriel, Casso, Random00. I don't think a noob could have ANY chance against these players.
I am really tired of engaging into scheme fights. We mostly like to argue theoretically. If someone is up for it and challenge one of top hysteria players and achieve like 40-50% winning percentages against these players, then I think it will open our eyes about how flawed this scheme is and helps us take further actions.
Quote from: Komito on February 11, 2013, 10:14 AMQuote from: Free on February 11, 2013, 09:34 AM
Won't even bother with Komo, ur just stating ur opinions and feelings, some of us actually here are trying to argue WHY Hysteria doesn't belong to classic scheme as it is. Btw, ur ridicilous by trying to compare how long it would take to master ttrr/elite compared to hysteria for someone who would just start WA. Years of learning compared to a month(s) even for someone who just starts WA for the first time.
Ok, you are trying to argue why it shouldn't be in Classic, where I am arguing why it should, what is the difference? What gives your opinions more value over mine?
What I said about what it takes to become a top player, is a fact, it is not an opinion, Casso etc wouldn't be so good at Hysteria if they hadn't spent years playing WA practising their BnG skills, it took ME years with alot of the time 16 hours a day @ BnG to become as good as I am, it took Mablak years to master TTRR, same with other top players in other schemes...
From someone who has never played WA before, it will take roughly the same time to become a top player for any chosen "speciality" scheme, whether it is Elite or Hysteria.
If you even try to argue against what I just said, I swear i'll probably die laughing...
Edit: Take the test and play against Casso 10 games, I will be surprised if you even win 1, the guy beat me like 8-1 in Hysteria, granted, I didn't play so well, but 8-1 and at the time I was dominating TRL:Hysteria by quite a large margin.
Quote from: Kaleu on February 11, 2013, 07:36 AM
OMG You guys got really pissed by losing that PO lol take it easy.
Quote from: pizzasheet on February 11, 2013, 06:32 AM
Free i really disagree with this topic... I play all schemes in Classic league and Hysteria is my favourite, BUT i do not participate in HAL because i dont like aeriel, but if Hysteria was removed the only way i could play a Hysteria League game would be to play in HAL and that would be very stupid participating in a league where i only play 1 of the 2 schemes...
Just leave classic how it is, its working fine and alot of people pick hysteria check the stats! just because you dont like it dont try ruin it for the rest of us. Your being sour get over it.
And if you didnt already know Hysteria was most played scheme for last 13seasons.... its what the people want! https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/seasons-info/