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Quote from: Kradie on February 01, 2019, 02:45 PM
Mr Why Tits Flourishes (WTF), could you be a good lad and provide the link of the topic & post that was made by CyberShadow?

I'm not WTF but you could just click on the "Quote by.." text to jump to the quote source. Anyway, here you go:
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/worms-armageddon/should-they-release-worms-armageddon-v3-8-on-dec-31st-even-if-its-unfinished-31598/msg265562/#msg265562

I just realized, ah damn it's on me. Thank you though.

Quote from: WTF-8 on February 01, 2019, 12:13 AM

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Quote from: CyberShadow on December 30, 2017, 03:41 PMWell, it's settled. Update delayed until December 31, 2022. Pack it up, boys! I'm sure all 7 people still playing W:A by then will find the wait worthwhile.

Mr Why Tits Flourishes (WTF), could you be a good lad and provide the link of the topic & post that was made by CyberShadow?

So far based on my own analyzes of supposedly post by CyberShadow(Which I will assume is true atm), seems to contain a flavor of sarcasm. Still, this all leaves myself into more confusion. What is the purpose of this VERY topic that DeadCode brought to our attention? He even was on discord worm group imminent after his initial posting of this topic, answering people about this update and more. So with this type of initiation, it is only to assume that an update is on the horizon, presumable the year the sneak peak update was released.
It was 2 years ago CyberShadow revealed the release date of 3.8, now there's 3 more year left, and now developers decided to shed some light that the update is coming. Is this supposed to be some kind of a road map?

I am sorry, I just wish there could be more transparency. Then again, perhaps e.g DeadCode would feel forced to work harder if he actually did reveal an actual release date. I know maybe I would.

Quote from: WTF-8 on January 28, 2019, 07:35 PM
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I am on that list 

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Quote from: WTF-8 on January 28, 2019, 07:35 PM
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skunk3 is right, that's only a few actual people with WA open.  Not many people play during NA/SA prime time anymore.  USA & Canada has left this game and moved on.  This game seeing rock bottom levels of activity in our time zone.

Russians has taken over, but not all are bad.

Quote from: TheKomodo on January 31, 2019, 12:14 AM
I disagree Kradie and i'll explain why.

While I don't disagree the missions are officially made by Team17, speedrunning is not dictated solely/purely by vanilla content, also while the majority of games follow standard routes of the game, there are plenty games out there that have alternative methods/mods/categories/routes for speedrunning.

Not to mention, the updates DC and CS have done are official updates are they not? They don't get paid, they volunteered, community players who decided to take the game to the next level and has been accepted and is now included as part of the game officially, for example if you buy WA on Steam currently you get 3.7.2.2, which comes with ability to use big maps.

When you take these official updates as part of the game, all the content included becomes official as well, so making a map designed specifically for speedrunning can still be considered official if it complies with the limitations of the game.

What makes a speedrunning community and speedrunning categories official? A collective of players with the same purpose from what i've seen, so if we managed to get 100 people competing on the same gigantic map for many years to come, constantly smashing the world record and competing, supporting each other via Twitch and having followers/subscribers, it could most definitely become a thing, and could be considered "official".

GDQ does showcase the most popular/impressive stuff, I could be wrong but I think if there were enough people competing and supporting this, the level of skill is at least equal to many speedrun games shown on GDQ.

Hmmm... Makes sense, I agree.

I rest my case. For now

Quote from: Sensei on January 30, 2019, 09:48 PM

Quote from: Kradie on January 30, 2019, 06:15 PM
both DC & CS have expressed the motivation to provide incremental update after the release of 3.8

Now it seems you're just saying things to say them. CS told us long time ago he's basically not even working on a game anymore. And few other respected members confirmed it few times within last year.

Don't get your hopes too high up about soon releases after 3.8, and if you do, try not to spread it around community if you're not sure

I could had easily left out CyberShadow's name in my post, but I didn't. I know that DeadCode had said he would love to do a string of small updates after the release of 3.8. So I only naturally assumed that CS ''could'' be involved in some form of contact and collaboration on that.

I never said that my claims of update 3.8 were legit, it was pure speculation on my behalf, and it made sense to me. If anyone were effected by my initial calculations & reasoning behind a potential release date of 3.8, then blame not the developers. This is a delicate subject, and should be taken with a grain of salt. Rumors and speculation are normal, and part of the internet. It is important for people to remember to manage their own beliefs and expectations. Otherwise, people will be disappointed. In a hypothetical scenario if I was right, this wouldn't had been an issue, and no one would had learned anything.

It is great to see support, warms the heart.

Thank you.

Quote from: KinslayeR on January 30, 2019, 02:17 PM
ok, so they told us nice things so our dicks are hard, but the most important question, WHEN, when can I lunch WA and enjoy this all things?   in this year? in the next 10 years?? in this decade?   is not it just another "f@#! off" topic?

10 years is a decade.

I think this topic was necessary to demonstrate that the developers are still caring and working on the game.  I highly doubt they are like this;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuwBhHDPyws

We should be glad that there is sign of life & support for the game. Not a lot of games in this day and age gets updated.

Quote from: skunk3 on January 30, 2019, 01:53 AM
As far as whether or not W:A will have a player base in 20 years... I doubt it. I doubt servers will even be up in 20 years. I'm amazed it's still up and going, to be honest. I barely play the game anymore (maybe once a week for 2 hours or so) and even with the 3.8 update I don't see that as drumming up much activity. Maybe a little at first but eventually it's going to dwindle again.

Nothing at the moment is dwindling. Worms Armageddon is as active as it was back in 2005, this is if you exclude the league. So nothing is dwindling, perhaps old school players that you wish to hang out with, but nothing else. Update 3.8, will help WA to stay relevant in modern times. It is very significant of a game like WA to get such massive update. We should be proud and glad to have people working their asses off that still provide freshness to our beloved game. Sure, 3.8 will likely not save WA for 20 years down the road, but here's the silver lining; both DC & CS have expressed the motivation to provide incremental update after the release of 3.8, this alone will help the game stand on its feet with the help of its awesome self-sustained community, until the next big update arrives, such as 4.0.

@Komodo

The missions in Worms Armageddon are the internal foundation of the game, and is acknowledge by Team17 as such. Anything external is unofficial, even how technical impressive it is.  It is like making additional levels to Super Mario World, and call that part of the game, because it wouldn't. It would be labelled as a mod, a hack, created by the community. Then again, I can see some of the errors of my argument, anything external and internal can be seen as category to speedrun. Even so, homegrown maps & challenges can be abused, and needs to be acknowledged by the entire community through voting, not by a select few. Though;, these select few can be voted on as well, without bias of course. I doubt Team17 would come and say ''Yep, that is official''. Still, my point still stands, everything made by the community is external and unofficial. BUT THEN YOU COULD SAY, WA is a creative workstation, so everything made within it, is internal and part of the foundation of the game!

The video is hilariously bad.

Only the main mission of Worms Armageddon should be considered official speedrun, and everything else that is made by the community should not.

Happy Birthday Worms Armageddon.

If it wasn't for Team17 in the first place, we wouldn't had this. So I thank them

I thank also the community of worms, great job, even though there are only some quality people here..

Worms Armageddon has remained relevant for 20 years thanks to the community. Will this activity trend continue and remain strong for another 20 more years? Or will it decline due to lack of interest among players, incompatible hardware, and software?

I think not. Anything with EA attached to it, is a big no no.

Granted, game looks gorgeous, kudos to the developers.

I heard good things, but I am skeptical.

So still, big no no.

But I am not trying to prevent anyone from joining you or anyone else. I am exercising caution for anyone who intends to invest time and money into an EA game.

Please cast your vote, and maybe give some thoughts on as to why you voted this or that.

Thank you.

Quote from: TheWalrus on January 25, 2019, 08:40 PM
This guy isn't from w2 lol

Raise your hand if you believed the backstory

At least this guy is not a Kradie hater. So we can rule that out