Ideal for whom and what exactly? Are you preparing us for more weird stuff coming from you, like dozens of those naked anime girls maps you're making, updating and hosting in random games?

As a newcomer, I'd be more freaked out joining a game with you in that setup, than seeing some random idiots cursing  on WormNET.

I am not preparing anyone for anything I'm merely proposing Ideas. Ideas that could prevent choking freedom completely. But it seems to me that you may have Indirectly or unknowingly proposed an Idea: A moderated AG should prohibit explicit content, especially for games. Such content should only be tolerated in an adult channel. Perhaps ''adult'' channel is the wrong word for it? ''Unmoderated Channel'' could sound more appropriate? Either way, if you look to TUS, there is already such area where such pornographic content are accepted.

When you click ''Host'' there should be an option ''Adult content'', this could signalize for the users that that game uses explicit content.

I like the idea. Additionally perhaps it's worth to add a system that checks player's age in their steam account to grant them access to the adult channel if they're 18+ (not sure if it's possible to implement).

Btw minimal moderation/filtering must be even in the adult channel anyway. There are lots of things which can't be tolerated: sharing someone's personal data, spreading malicious links, spamming huge amount of messages and many other ones which I even don't wanna mention.

However I have also an alternative simplier solution. Since the in-game chat (not the WormNET's or the lobby's one) has no moderation/filters and also no clickable links support, probably it makes sense just to turn the clickable links support off for the adult channel, at least for a beginning. Most likely the moderation/filters shall be added to the in-game chat as well sooner or later.

I am no programmer but I have this feeling that it won't be easy nor possible to Implement a system where WA checks user profile on steam, let alone GOG, and CD version.

I moderate my own Worms Server, and I try my best to keep it clean from spam, malicious links, and bad people. However, I do allow people to discuss and share whatever that is on their mind within the confinement of reason, as longest it is kept orderly and civilized. If similar mentality and order e.g MonkeyIsland, could come to adult channel, then that would be great. But then again people who logs onto WormNET normally has 1 goal, to play game, and not to look for discussions on whatever. But people do chat and talk to each other anyway, at least there would be an option.

You already have the option to Ignore people in game (ctrl+F1 2 3 4+). Though this method is not visible and obvious.

@kradie,
The street example is not a good analogy for WormNET. People passing on a street don't have anything in common. You could say WormNET is like a club or a bar. People who enter the club/bar may not know each other but they are looking to experience something similar. Now everytime you go to the bar you see people vomiting or having a bar fight, even though none of them are targeted at you, it definitely impacts your experience of that bar/club.

What you said here makes a lot of sense to me. So if I understand you right that ''Experience'' is more Important than Freedom of Speech? It's like in kindergarten, you work there to provide the kids security and a good experience. Only an Irrational crazy person would wish to oppose this.

Keep in mind, most of what I have said here has not been associated with law and order, but with common sense and rational thinking. I am no Idiot I understand in a working society you need law and order. In some places you shouldn't talk about this and that, everyone know this.

I guess my problem is I have too much faith in people to believe that they can make the right moral decision on their own when they are out and associating with others. Who would want to hang with bad people? Who would want to listen to people talk shit to each other? I don't. That's why I avoid such people because I have the choice too. Why would you want to be with a few people who attacks you? If that happens you know what kind of people they are. Their behavior is only damaging themselves and their reputation. Besides you don't even know them, their words should mean nothing to you.

I have FoxHound muted because he's not really a good human, most of his posts and opinions are nothing of worth. But I decided to unmute his last post before my own and read it. I only skimmed his text and then I saw the part about me, and I skimmed most of it too. What he said there about me is not true. It is taken out of context and is one sided, complete disinformation. I will not go into that subject because it is Irrelevant to this topic. But when I see people spread lies to feel validated then I must speak out.

Some people read his first post here in this topic and they were shocked. This is a guy who wants to strangle freedom. Who wants to hang with such a person?No wonder I have the power to Ignore.

To Ignore is a skill and it is very Important people are taught this by early age. Although some things are worth fighting for.

Maybe the WormNET chat window should be disabled by default on entering a channel. At least it would give the user to hide the chat.

Yes yes I have to f@#! Billy Boy. Maybe he will livestream it on pornhub (no i dont know if thats possible)

OnlyFans thing. 

Well that depends on where it is. Like, you wouldn't be going into someone elses house saying stuff they don't want to hear and expect them to leave their own house lol. As MI said, as I said, and as others have said... Environment is very important, every environment has their own laws/rules/guidelines, it would be wise to follow them.

If you are the host it becomes your house and that makes it your domain. I am a kind and welcoming host (to most). People know what they will get when they join with me and that's normally a good time. How do I maintain a healthy environment in my host? To be decent and kind. Treat others just as you want to be treated. So if people just apply some common sense then laws and rules won't be necessary. There won't be any reason to choke freedom of speech. I always cast toxic people away and I Ignore them too. Anyone can do this. Why wouldn't anyone do this?

If you want to speak about anything in the privacy of a friend, that's between you 2 alone. The moment you step into the public you're part of the public, and the public will hold you responsible if you don't co-exist peacefully. It's not like you even have a choice when you are in someone else's domain, your 2 choices are to either follow their rules or they will forcibly remove you one way or another.

If WormNET is the street outside your home, then your home is the host room. If you step outside you would be wise to watch your mouth. No one in their right mind in real life would seek out a random person and talk shit to them. Anyone can wander through a public street and they can hear anything they like or don't like. But you shouldn't care for that, it is just noise. You focus on task at hand, find a game with like minded people and have a good time.

Imagine Komodo, you are a civilian walking down the street. You can hear two white dudes sitting outside at cafe chilling rambling about whatever. Out of nowhere you can hear one of them say the ''N'' word clearly. What would you choose to do as a civilian? Call the police? Intervene in their discussion?
And let's say you were an officer of the law Komodo, what would you do in that situation? Would you arrest them for saying a word you don't like? Or imagine something else said you didn't like. What would you do?

You remind me of Kira from Death Note Komodo. DELETE DELETE DEEEEEEEEEEEEELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETE!

Nah not really, these things are based on experience knowing Kradie for a long time and seeing how he thinks in general. Also note that I did not say it's bad to have more limited beliefs. This seems to happen a lot around here, people making assumptions that what is being said is bad.

Sometimes limits are very positive and you can gain a lot from them.

For example, he looks at using parachute in Roper as "like using crutches" that we are inferior for using parachute. Though the funny thing is by using a parachute you actually increase the human skill cap meaning we can push ourselves faster, harder, more consistently. Similar to how professional racing drivers use safety features like seat belts, roll cages and in some cases like drag racing, literal parachutes lol!

It's good to have variety, while I sit here talking about rules etc, It is in the sense that also advocate free thinking, to push your own barriers and limits as much as possible.

The fact that you rope without any safety measures, like climbing up a mountain without ropes and harnasses, puts you at greater risk, and this awareness of risk makes you more careful and cautious. To many this is boring... But not to all! That's why it's variety!

Kradie has a lot of these beliefs, that are ironic and contradictive to his very reasoning for believing in them. All I've ever tried to do is show him a more powerful perspective that could elevate his own skills and success in life.

You don't know me though. A couple of weeks ago I remember you came to my game for the first time out of your own volition. You said I was much more ''nicer'' here compared to the forums. A forum is a place where people engage in various of topics that Interest them. You have obviously painted Inaccurate depiction of me while also likely received words from others which are one sided. In reality, you don't know ''me''. You never hung with me. Because you assume the worst of people with the Intel you see. But not everything is as it seems. I think I may not be the only one who you paint Inaccurately in public.

Let me tell you what I think of YOU based on what I have observed only here on the forums. You have a massive ego that fueled by self-righteousness. You judge and berate people if they differ with you. You come across as this white knight on a horse waving the sword of truth. You overwhelm people with sermons and obvious speeches. Nobody likes that.

Perhaps what I said is just ''opinion''. Perhaps someone will say otherwise. But remember, this is what I have observed here on these forums.

And I can see you can't let go this whole parachute discussion. Parachute is a clutch, it is a baby's diaper. You're a grown man, you can walk without it and not have the fear to fall on your ass.

Show me a more powerful perspective? You assume I don't know them? Some of your post elsewhere makes sense to me. Sometime you should accept that other people have a different world view than your own.

What happened to agree to disagree? It is very Important to understand all sides if you don't agree.

I believe in free speech, you do not.

If you think you have taught me something then you have sorely underestimated me.

Dinner with Komodo.


Kradie in a Komodo world.

@Komodo

I said ''may'' because I was not talking about quantum, physics. If you said something inappropriate to someone they would have a choice to react to it. It is
entirely circumstantial. E.g: If you said something horrible to me, I would have a choice to respond or to Ignore. Not many people FEEL they have a choice because of circumstances they find themselves in. The people who LEFT the game out of their own volition. That was THEIR choice. This is something I can sympathize with. But if you start to add rules, you give people little choice but to comply because of herde mentality. Making a choice will become Impossible out of fear of being ostracized.

People always have a choice. I already know this.

Obviously you should not exercise and abuse freedom of speech publicly with animosity. You shouldn't even seek out the random guy and start fight with. I mean you technically can, but no one in their right state of mind would do that.

Animals does not possess reasoning skills as humans. This analogy is flawed and ridiculous.

These examples of yours are Insane though. Everyone knows there is a limit, but the choice will always be there no matter what. The bottle of vodka can be found at the liqour store if you so choose it. The gym around the corner will still be there if you choose to continue to push yourself. You assume too much.


We all know that good parents who has provided their kids with good guard rails for their kids, will behave decent in society. If you can respect and abide by your parents authority, you can do so in society. This is how you honor your parents. You do this by behaving decent to others. So this is nothing new to me Komodo. Not many people are raised properly, ergo their morals and behavior is Incompatible with a civilized society.

Freedom of Speech is not controlled speech. Just be rational and don't see out trouble.