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#31
Quote from: Kaleu on February 15, 2025, 12:33 AM@Kradie
It's not automated. Stop making up for what you think it is, and try to KNOW how it works. How can you guys debate something if you are not willing to try it first??

@j0e Many advanced keyboards will do the same action. Are we considering them cheating apparel?
Hmm, such argument can be said in real life ''Hey bro, why don't you take this drug syringe? You will know how it works and It will help you run faster in sprint?''. If I heard this, my mind would Immediately reject it because it would be unethical. It would also be unearned and disrespectful for the actual people who does sprint. All these hours committed to the run would be challenged by people who took a shortcut. I don't like that.

Here's a different answer too. I do not need to know how it works. Why? I seen this in action too many times, and people have told me how it is. Some have even said it automates 50% at least for them! So there is some cheat injected!

If you play Counter Strike, and have enough passion, you would want better equipment. If you have a poor mouse, you try to save up for that instead leaning towards aim bot. If you have poor headphones, you would want better headphones, instead of acquiring wallhack!

Nothing is fair in life! I can totally understand that there are some parts of the world where it is difficult to get decent gear to keep up with others. So it makes sense to lean towards cheats to even the playing field and rationalize it. But there is no honor and integrity to do it this way.
#32
If scripts and software are automated, it is cheat.

Keyboard is not automated unless software is Involved.

Everyone can get software to simulate what hardware can.

Simulating what hardware can do with software, is hack. Counter argument: Modifying keyboard is hack as well.

I have noticed now a trend. There is software, and there is hardware. Some think that software is not cheat, and that it can replace and simulate certain hardware capabilities. Just as much as hardware can do with software. BUT, here is thing.. When you engage with hardware, this require the physical you, your muscles and reflexes are in play. YES, I am aware of this argument ''Rope Script, can be very difficult and harder to master.''. However, automation/aid is still Involved, and you can acquire significant advantage once you fully mastered it. It is still not part of the game itself. It is like to bring drug enhancement to sport games and claim it is a new experience.

I hope Rocket can forgive me to Include him in my post but hear me out. As I gathered by online activities with Rocket, he does not have anything fancy hardware and equipment. He uses a very tired and aged laptop and still kicks ass, and does not use any script enhancing performance automation booster. Simply because he does not need it. You can make it big with 10$ keyboard cheaper or expensive.

To collect good hardware of whatever kind is just a hobby, part of an Interest of a person. This is normal. You may not have the greatest, but that does not mean you have to sink to the lowest.
#33
Quote from: TheKomodo on February 14, 2025, 10:56 AMGood, nice to see most people vote no even if they don't have the guts to call them out for it.

Cheaters are scumbags, period. Including those who try defending the fact they used to cheat.

I also love reading delusional comments that live outside reality, keep them coming lol.
I also like that because I think I am part of your assessment 8)  :D 
#34
I see that there is one person who thinks it is okay to cheat, while the rest do not. This is just an observation.

If a person thinks it is acceptable to cheat in an online multiplayer game, then their ethical stance likely extends to real-life activities such as board games, card games, football, basketball, and more.

People who voted "No" in this topic surely have a stronger sense of ethics and a better moral compass. I can assume that people like this can enjoy video games, board games, and other activities by simply playing fairly. The moment someone introduces aids, cheats, or enhancements, it disrupts the integrity of the activity. The person engaging in such behavior might say, "Don't take it seriously." To begin with, I don't think anyone was taking it too seriously. However, the moment an anomaly was introduced by a third party, people naturally started to take issue with it. The perpetrator may perceive this as others taking things too seriously, but in reality, cheating is a serious matter. It is reassuring to see that most people have voted "No" so far.
#35
Quote from: Corujão on February 13, 2025, 06:44 AMKradie, I understand your indignation.
In an ideal world, players would be honest, but in the real world, we don't have full control over that. The most sensible way is for you to ignore and/or filter better who you play with.
That doesn't mean we should accept and give in. We cannot control other people but we can control ourselves. I think it is better to choose what is right not what is convenient.

Quote from: Corujão on February 13, 2025, 07:15 AMWhy not expand the discussion about cheating instead of reducing it to roping scripts? Let's talk about the clear water publicly available for download on a public page at https://worms2d.info/Water_color_editor ? And why does no one question the fact that a WA developer plays the Team17 crates scheme without seeming suspicious? I wonder if this is hypocrisy or collegiality.
Roping script is a form of cheat due to its automation behavior, same with aim bot. Earlier today I had a game with a person and he said that ''Soul has given me reason to rope better'' or something like that. This person doesn't even realize that Soul uses rope script. Quite frankly I am a bit scared what his reaction will be when he learns the truth. He could probably embrace the convenience of automation. But the cheater's mind will rationale it, and say something like ''This script takes roping to next level, and it is more difficult''.

I wonder why this clear water is even available in the first place? It surely does make it more convenient to those who have it, compared to those that doesn't have it.

Are you Corujao, Implying that Deadcode is actively cheating because he is a WA developer? Could you perhaps go into some detail on this?

Somebody told me something on discord, something that I forgot that I once thought: If someone wants to cheat, they should tell that before the game start or during the game. But here is the thing.. If a person reveals they are cheating, who is to stop them to share their cheats?

It all boils down to the person's ethics. Ethics is derived from a person's real life and their uprising. I cannot cheat or use Innocent aids, because it would conflict with my ethics, I would feel guilty. It fascinates me (psychologically) that people chooses to cheat and rationales it, and it also makes me sad. But I cannot control them, but I can say my piece and hope they take some of the Info to heart.
#36
Are you two done now? Can we please get back on topic?

Anyhow..

Dear reader, if you think cheating is ok or not on WA or in any online multiplayer game, then you are welcome to share your thoughts on it.

Also I have added a poll!
#37
Quote from: Kaleu on February 12, 2025, 04:34 AMThere are barely 8–10 of us playing the same matches every day. If the goal is to ruin what's left, just start banning whoever you suspect. Or, you know, just play and relax. Speedruns are the only thing that stand out and pierces our bubble, and Mablak is the only one who even cares. I would understand all the concern if we didn't have players because of cheaters, but that's not the case here. So what's the big deal?

Sometimes I can't help but think that the only way to keep this place sane is to shut down the forum entirely and leave only the league. That way, people would actually play instead of ranting and whining. Or at least keep their drama confined to their own private message groups where it belongs.
Do you think that my post exhibited ranting and whining? I think I came out fairly balanced and easy going in regards to what I wanted to say.

Indeed I do relax and have fun, Including with those that has scripts, so much is clear.

I just seek clarity and understanding of the morals behind cheating. I think TUS forums is fine for that.

What do you mean by that ''What's left?''. Perhaps what you are referring to ''what's left'' is of the league itself. There are very few people who plays the league, but the overall online activity is about the same 10-15 years ago if you check the steam charts. 

I don't think we should shut down the forums because we ask these types of questions. If you find yourself less sane because of the forums and perhaps some of the contents you see here, you could choose not to come read and participate.
#38
Quote from: TheWalrus on February 12, 2025, 02:45 AMgive us names so we know who not to take seriously

they should not be playing league games
I mostly play funners, and so does most of the people I play with too, Including people with ''super fast taps'' scripts. To Include their names would not do anybody good, but I am certain there are people who know people who cheats in ground and rope schemes. I simply wish to bring awareness to this ''supposedly'' taboo.

I don't think it is alright to distribute cheats between people, it could damage the reputation of WA. People's Integrity could be at jeopardy and challenged at some point, and WA could be the game known as cheaters paradise.

Of course I am strictly talking about casual games on WA.
#39
When I was a teenager and started playing Worms Armageddon online, the first thing that caught my attention was "Ropers." They frequently played Ropers, TTRR, and Warmers, and I was always impressed by how fast their rope movements and taps were. Their speed seemed unnatural to me, and I noticed that many players displayed similar skills. Back then, I wondered if it was possible for me to reach such a phenomenal level of rope skill. Over time, I did develop some dexterity, and in my mind, I felt I was on the right path to becoming a pro.

Eventually, I decided to leave Worms behind and focus on my life. I was away for over ten years and returned to WA in 2015. I saw many skilled ropers, but the "super fast tap" ropers were less common. Their speed still seemed unnatural, yet impressive. However, something about these extremely fast ropers bothered me, though I couldn't quite put my finger on it. I hesitated to call them out because many of them were highly respected. Additionally, I preferred to avoid confrontation—besides, they weren't harming anyone. Still, I had a lingering suspicion that some might be using something to gain an advantage. Not all of them had super fast taps, though.

In the past, people often told me that a mechanical keyboard was the key to improvement. They weren't wrong. Eventually, I got myself a mechanical keyboard, and my roping skills noticeably improved. As time passed, I upgraded to a monitor with a faster response time and a higher refresh rate. I also increased my resolution to 1080p and disabled both V-Sync options. My roping dexterity dramatically improved, and I even experimented with different keyboards. However, despite these enhancements, achieving super fast taps remained impossible. I could occasionally pull off a finger roll, but not consistently. Ironically, some lesser-experienced players accused me of cheating.

As time went on, I learned that some players used scripts to enhance their roping skills, essentially taking their gameplay to another level. As I understood it, these scripts performed the roping for them. At first, I didn't want to make a fuss about it, but it made me reflect on everything I had seen back in 2015 and the mid-2000s. How many players had used such tools to gain an unfair advantage? Players who had received years—if not decades—of praise and accolades? Were the legacies of renowned ropers and even ground players built on a false foundation? Maybe this topic is considered taboo, or perhaps I simply reached my limit and could never attain such roping skills myself.

So why am I writing about this now? A recent event in our community—where a member was allegedly caught cheating on TUS (to my understanding)—got me thinking. How many players in the past might have used tools to gain an advantage? Many of them aren't even around anymore, which could explain why we see less of that extreme roping today. Of course, a valid counterpoint to this would be: "It's because there's less interest in roping."

With that said, let me be clear: I do not condone the use of such tools, even if they break barriers to a new level of experience. I have a moral compass that values fairness, fun, and a just game for everyone. That said, I know this may sound contradictory, but I personally don't mind if people use tool-assisted scripts in my rope race games. My rope skills can still hold their own, and even if I lose, it doesn't bother me much. However, I fully understand why others take issue with this, and I sympathize with them. It robs them of a fair and just game. The element of fun disappears when a player is faced with an opponent whose seemingly unachievable skills make the game feel hopeless.

Recently, someone on WormNET became more open about their reliance on a rope tool and confessed to a few players, who did not take it lightly—despite having shared countless hours of fun together. I don't believe canceling or shunning someone is the right approach, but I do understand why people react that way. It challenges their morals and their sense of fair play. At the end of the day, for me, it's all about fun, but for others, fun means fair competition. Ultimately, I think scripts should not be allowed in WA, but perhaps that's wishful thinking.

I know of both a cheater and a legitimate player whose roping skills appear nearly identical. I discussed these two with a friend who has played alongside them. I asked, "Which of the two looks legit to you?" My friend couldn't believe that either of them cheated. However, when I insisted that one did, he hesitantly guessed, "It's the cheater." His reaction was interesting—he simply couldn't believe it. Furthermore, he remarked that it was unnecessary for the cheater to use scripts because he was already good.

Of course, people who cheat and rely on it tend to lack a stable moral compass and ethics—though I could be wrong. If someone is okay with cheating in WA, what's stopping them from doing the same elsewhere? It speaks volumes about the kind of person they are. It also astonishes me how cheaters can rationalize their act of cheating and justify why they do it.

I have learned something disturbing: there are people in our community, even those of familiar status, who may be distributing the rope script cheat to those who express curiosity and admiration. If this is the case, what kind of morals and standards are we setting here? Should cheating be normalized, or should there be stronger opposition against it?
You may have noticed that I haven't mentioned any names. These are people I still enjoy playing with, and I don't condemn them for their ongoing actions. While I may not approve of it, it is what it is.

In case if you are not sure what cheat I am talking about, it's mainly rope cheats that automates your maneuvering and taps for you. I am not familiar with land cheat though.

This topic is about discussing cheats, understanding the motivations behind them, and questioning whether some past ropers may have used them—though I am open to being corrected.

So, what are your thoughts? Have you encountered players who cheat or have cheated? Are you a cheater, or have you ever cheated? Please share your thoughts.
#40
Off Topic / Re: Material Things
February 05, 2025, 11:16 PM
I voted no and here is why.

I don't care for expensive brands and luxury Items because it means nothing to me. What matters are my interests and where my passion lies. I could happily buy myself an expensive gaming computer or high end OLED TV but not out of Immediate necessity but because of intrinsic value. I personally do not like to show off these things but I wouldn't mind to share what I have to someone I know.

I personally don't care if someone owns expensive homes, rides luxury cars, and wear flashy clothes. Why? Because it means nothing to me. Materials are things promoted through society, ads, and media. It is all a mental thing Imo. It is also toxic and promotes the idea of Inequality.

It's the content of the character that matters at the end of the day, and how well you are able to control yourself. Sadly in Norway, a lot of kids age 12+ gets latest/expensive iPhones and Samsung phones in order to fit in.
#41
Quote from: TheKomodo on January 13, 2025, 03:21 PM
Quote from: Kradie on January 13, 2025, 02:28 PM18. Auto kick player if a player has joined more than 3 times.

I'd go one step further and have like an "auto-kick list" where if a player with a specific name tries to join your game it auto kicks them.

Or you could simply call it "The Anti-Rafal Device".
This is long needed feature. I assume it could easily be made as a wormkt ''wkantilist''. If anyone with wormkit skills reading this, please make this happen, thanks.
#42
1. Set sudden death weapons: Specific weapons selected in option will unlock during sudde ndeath.

2. Set retreat time for each individual weapons.

3. Each time you fire a weapon, X amount of time is added to turn time.

4. Adjust Individual Worm Health.

5. Jumping gives you X amount of extra seconds.

6. The amount of damaged done to enemy is absorbed to your health.

7. Each turn, a weapon is randomly unlocked for one turn only.

8. The game starts with sudden death, but stops when round time is over.

9. Auto Switch: After firing a weapon, you will Immediately take control over your next worm.

10. When sudden death is turned on, all worms receive X amount of health.

11. Wormkit module page in option - Cross wkmodules you want to be active in game.

12. Ability to set amount of ammo in each crate. Choose the amount of ammo from 1 to infinite e.g: 5 Bazookas in a crate.

13. Disable wormkit module in host room.

14. Display what wormkit module user have loaded when they join a host lobby.

15. Competitive Mode Setting - Make all modified files in WA unusable.

16. Anti-Collision Mode - Similar to Antisink, a fail instantaneously teleports you back.

17. Show a tiny number in green next to host's name. The number represent the number of players inside the host's room.

18. Auto kick player if a player has joined more than 3 times.

19. Leaving your own host room, makes the player that joined first the new host.

20. Set X amount of teams permitted to add by others in host lobby.

21. When you join host room, you can click on map and view only in editor.

22. Make polls in host room.
#43
Find me on discord, snooper, or host lobby. I am fairly active. I also made a group for us here on TUS. Feel free to use it.
#44
Wormkit Modules / Re: wkKick38
January 04, 2025, 02:46 PM
Quote from: TheKomodo on January 04, 2025, 01:38 PMIt would seem someone has figured a way around this module, I'm pretty sure I typed their name correctly "AltF4" yet when I tried to kick them it said player not found.

For context, this player used a macro during their turn which begins at 12:36. The point at which they used some macro was 13:17.

I immediately tried to kick them because I don't want to associate or play with any cheaters/scripters/macro users.

Anyway, it didn't work, and I had to quit the game to rehost so I could kick them from the lobby.

Attached is the replay.
Yes this is something that happened to me too 2 years ago.I told people here about it, but no one cared.
Quote from: Kradie on December 18, 2022, 02:39 PMA person came to my game and I tried to kick this entity but it didn't work. The message was displayed to this person and called me ''lol coward''. I decided then to rehost.

Could it be possible that someone has found a workaround to counter this kick? Is it possible?
#45
Quote from: rUNaW4y on December 31, 2024, 01:11 AM
Quote from: Kradie on December 30, 2024, 02:03 PM
Quote from: TheKomodo on December 30, 2024, 02:02 PMIf Sensei is stepping down at first point in KO, shouldn't replace him with runaway?(Who was next in line).
I pm'ed them, asking if they want to step in.

Oh no, Prabe trying to appear to be a good guy once again!! For those who are not aware of, Kradie just put me in his black list some months ago, just because I am in not in favour of his racist thinking. No worries dude, I am still fine with that, keep it going! I will not take part of this cup anymore!
P.s: I have never received his message, as he said.
This is an open cup for anyone, as longest they can fulfil the cup requirement. You joined this cup after said Incident and partook in its activity. It is a bit strange that you realized this now and not before. In the end, whatever happened before is Irrelevant for me, this is a cup, and I can easily separate these things.

Oh by the way, here's that message I sent to you today. Excuse the colors, I am using dark mode, apparently it is not working 100% right at times.

Thank you for playing the cup though.