Quote from: KinslayeR on December 07, 2022, 07:47 AM

Quote from: Kradie on December 07, 2022, 07:24 AM

Quote from: KinslayeR on December 07, 2022, 06:33 AM
I need answer about oldsock, did he get more yellow cards or why I went through and not he

The choice between you KinsalyeR and Sock was completely random. I just happened to land with you, KinslayeR.

If this is not acceptable, you can choose the following options:

A) Ask Sock if this is ok with him, and then accept the random verdict.
B) Do a WxW against Sock, and the winner gets to the knockout.
C) Do nothing.
D) Something else..?

Time is of the essence. Please make haste. I must proceed regardless.

I am wondering about picking option C or D,  tho   I think  that most fair option here is option B,  anyway it is hard to find sock nowadays

If it is difficult to find sock, then you can accept the outcome. Otherwise, it wouldn't be fair to inzsome either.

Choose A or B please.

Quote from: KinslayeR on December 07, 2022, 06:33 AM
I need answer about oldsock, did he get more yellow cards or why I went through and not he

The choice between you KinsalyeR and Sock was completely random. I just happened to land with you, KinslayeR.

If this is not acceptable, you can choose the following options:

A) Ask Sock if this is ok with him, and then accept the random verdict.
B) Do a WxW against Sock, and the winner gets to the knockout.
C) Do nothing.
D) Something else..?

Time is of the essence. Please make haste. I must proceed regardless.

Knockout has started! Good luck everyone! Keep up the good work! 

To the rest of the participants: Great job everyone! Thanks for your commitment to this cup! I hope to see you compete next time

Quote from: FoxHound on November 28, 2022, 06:21 PM

Quote from: Kradie on November 28, 2022, 03:52 PM
Are you saying that toxic and destructive people should be encouraged of their actions, and therefore be elevated in hopes that it might inspire more people? To do what?

When I said "I prefer not revealing its name" of course my intention was not to encourage racist, homophobic and other types of harassments in the community. I should have written the word "unfortunately" before "inspire" to be more clear than I was. But, honestly I don't expect a good interpretation and good reading skills of someone that often spreads fake news and believe in conspiracy theories. Your life is to believe in a parallel reality, sadly.

You always have to throw a punch, don't you huh. I just sought clarity.

Quote from: Kaleu on November 28, 2022, 06:11 PM
Is your scheme same bounce level as Kradie's?
Maybe play some tus big rr with it to see what players think?

I think there's an extra discussion afterwards just to judge what's considered balanced bouncing % levels.

Says in my post here

Quote from: Kradie on November 28, 2022, 10:54 AM
It may as well be true that people enjoy high fidelity gameplay over cautious gameplay. But in both areas there are skills to learn and appreciate, and this too has its audience and players.

I have provided example how bounce in big rr works.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/z2pu3ijroqpse6z/2022-11-28_11.01.43_%255BOnline%255D_%2540ob-Kradie%2560zar%252C_bobjo.WAgame/file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/erubz97de24cfmw/2022-11-28_11.14.38_%255BOnline%255D_%2540ob-Kradie%2560zar%252C_gooner%252C_bobjo.WAgame/file

Here's the value of the bounciness

Quote from: Kaleu on November 28, 2022, 04:10 PM
Kradie I watched your replays and I found big rr with bounce to be very little to zero punitive. I don't think we want that?

Quote from: Kradie on November 28, 2022, 03:56 PM

Quote from: Kaleu on November 28, 2022, 03:53 PM
Thanks for all your input guys! I like both implementations and I would play any of them, but personally I think for now we should enable only ldet because it's more usual and widespread, bounce would be too much heavy change IMO...

I think we should consider ttrr too if both players agree why not? I have played a league big rr with ldet on already, I'll be looking to play some ttrr too!

Can't we just make a poll?

Poll gather too much useless votes of people who don't even play. But yeah, I will try to edit the topic with a poll.

Help me with options and question?

I believe that MonkeyIsland can see who votes. And those that participate actively in the league their votes will be counted.

But you should Include all options imo, particularly bounce and ldet.

Quote from: Kaleu on November 28, 2022, 03:53 PM
Thanks for all your input guys! I like both implementations and I would play any of them, but personally I think for now we should enable only ldet because it's more usual and widespread, bounce would be too much heavy change IMO...

I think we should consider ttrr too if both players agree why not? I have played a league big rr with ldet on already, I'll be looking to play some ttrr too!

Can't we just make a poll?

Quote from: FoxHound on November 28, 2022, 03:11 PM

Quote from: TheKomodo on November 28, 2022, 02:47 PM
Why are you protecting this person? Why don't you name and shame them for their stupid selfish and time wasting actions?

In the case of a brazilian known troll, I prefer not revealing its name in public because that's exactly what he wants, to be famous in the community as the biggest troll or the anti-hero of the community. A troll "celebrity" can also inspire other players.

Are you saying that toxic and destructive people should be encouraged of their actions, and therefore be elevated in hopes that it might inspire more people? To do what?

It may as well be true that people enjoy high fidelity gameplay over cautious gameplay. But in both areas there are skills to learn and appreciate, and this too has its audience and players.

I have provided example how bounce in big rr works.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/z2pu3ijroqpse6z/2022-11-28_11.01.43_%255BOnline%255D_%2540ob-Kradie%2560zar%252C_bobjo.WAgame/file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/erubz97de24cfmw/2022-11-28_11.14.38_%255BOnline%255D_%2540ob-Kradie%2560zar%252C_gooner%252C_bobjo.WAgame/file

Here's the value of the bounciness

You would want to avoid crashing with a race car in real life, just as much you would want to avoiding failing with no parachute in a race scheme. You can still rope as fast as you did before, but if you mess up, your turn will end. With Ldet, you will be able to keep going, and sometime with full speed regardless if you failed a few times during a turn. And to be honest, it is refreshing with ldet. it makes you less on edge, and more focused on the speed.

LDET was thought about for ZaR RR, because some thought ZaR RR was too unforgiving. So I opted to enable bounce with minimum bounciness and it did make it much more interesting. Interesting how exactly? Well, with bounce enabled, ''to fail'' was absent, and this would often leave the less skilled people behind because they didn't have the speed necessary to keep up. It gave the less skilled barely any chance. So I just don't pick this option often. It is good for warm up and practice for less experienced players.

But this is my experience, and may not reflect your reality.

So which is better for league and newbies? LDET? Bounce? Keep it as it is? Hmm, I would say that the league could be more inviting for people who are looking to get into it. Race schemes might look less intimidating for them, since it could help them Improve. But on the other hand, if constant motion in race scheme is not a priority, people would have to deal with failing more often(With Parachute, obviously). This could turn some people off.

No parachute for racing schemes too. It adds extra intensity and dread.

This is my opinion as well as my experience.

With parachute, I feel so much safer, but without I do not.

But really... To have no parachute, I never really think about it.

Nice scheme.

Groups are now sorted! Good luck and Have fun to everyone!!

REMEMBER DEADLINE!!

GROUP DEADLINE 30TH NOVEMBER!

KNOCKOUT DEADLINE 14TH DECEMBER!

Kevin04 proposed to deviate slightly from standard resolution. This I absolutely agree with since there are many WxW maps that are bigger than the standard resolution.

Big Billy proposed bo3 for all games, but opted that knockout games can be bo3 Instead bo1. This makes sense since WxW can be a bit unforgiving competitive wise.

Thank you for your Input! 

We shall start soon.

Quote from: Senator on November 14, 2022, 04:08 PM
TdC moved to the final. ob, can you play this Sunday?

On the following Sunday, yes.