I gave it a 5 to balance it out

I didn't watch it though lol

Quote from: ZiPpO on September 01, 2010, 07:05 AM
lol man tap = scroll fast than i want to say..to tap fast...its tap with skillz like tap tap tap...tap tap...tap tap tap...tap tap... undestand?

You don't have to tap fast to scroll fast, dobra gra.

I like the name telecow although it's allowed lol so technically it's not a cow...

And right now this IS the ultimate site of worms armageddon lol, it has the most activity for starters

Quote from: ZiPpO on September 01, 2010, 12:19 AMhe can easily put this mine in ur head if he tap good....

Why would it need taps? Taps don't make you the best roper lol. (this isn't a flame zippo, It's just my opinion of what makes someone good at rope...)

Please don't be offended...

Quote from: DarkOneAgain, we are not denying nor approving of this. Again, don't pretend they're the only ones acting like this. As Anubis posted, people come here and all these posts are already painting a picture of zippo and crash. I think you'll find you're willing to accept less from someone with a bad rep than from someone with a good rep, even if they're using the exact same words.

They ARE the only ones acting THIS bad... If none of you realise this, then you are either being ignorant (sorry, but it's the truth), or you just don't SEE the whole picture... And you are 100% correct, you will accept less crap from someone you already know acts how Zippo does, there is absolutely nothing wrong with this, if someone we all know acts nice all the time, acts like zippo for 1-2 days because something bad in their life and they took a bad turn, but quickly snapped out of it, I could easily forgive this, I have done in the past, but with Zippo, it always has been and always will be and you know that, so stop making excuses for him, stop telling us to ignore him because we can't, and as for him behaving? I have more chance of winning the lottery, at least in the next 5-10 years I think, and I am not joking, I am being serious, I honestly do believe I have a better chance of winning money...

If you think ANYTHING I have said in this whole thread is anywhere near as bad as them, it's completely wrong, I have not used foul language, I have took a ridiculous amount of time (Probably 20-30 minutes a post thinking of best words to come across to make my point) to put together my posts, they are mature, thought through and alot of people agree, so if any of my posts offend you it is not because they are morally wrong, it's just because you don't agree with them and don't respect my opinion, and just because I am saying this, doesn't mean that I think this is what you are thinking, I am just mentioning it.

Quote from: DarkOneSorry, but why exactly does it depend on who they're saying it to? Seems to me that if I'm calling crash names or calling MI names shouldn't make any kind of difference. Nor should it make any kind of difference if I try to get a cheap win against crash or against MI.

It changes everything, like I have explained in the last quote, if YOU acted like Zippo for a day or 2, we obviously know it isn't normally like you to act like this so we would give you the benefit of the doubt in hope you will be back to normal soon, any good person can have a bad turn due to something happening in their life not associated with this game, that they bring into this game, like when someone annoys you and you take it out on your friends or something, if you started swearing, accusing people of cheating, posting free wins etc for a few days, we would probably think someone is hacking your account to start off with... Then after you prove it IS you, I am guessing you would explain what happened after you calmed down, and you would probably be forgiving, but with Zippo, it's Zippo, he has ALWAYS been like this and will NOT change unless dealth with properly and severely.

Quote from: DarkOneYeah, I get that feeling quite often myself (Not referring to this thread with that btw)
And I agree. He did ruin it. And yes, it does suck that you're trying to help him and he just ignores that. I wonder why you think we don't know what that's like, Komo...

Who said I thought that? I never assumed anything...

Quote from: DarkOneI'll just quote someone here because he put it so nicely:

Quote from: Rok on August 30, 2010, 10:52 AM
Maybe darkZ, but banning doubletime didn't hurt anyone, neither would hurt to ban zippo.
We don't need zippo to change, not anymore. We need the community to lay back and watch him saw off the branch his sitting on.

The 1st part is true I guess, but the 2nd part is just morally wrong, in every way possible, you are asking us to continue being annoyed and agrivated most days of the week when we play because of 1 person.

No one has said anything (or maybe they have but not that I know of) but I know for a fact you have both or all warned Zippo, like a serious serious warning, he has been quiet for the last few days, since this thread actually, and like every criminal/***hole when warned or under pressure they will lie low and wait for things to cool off, then they will just be back to normal, trust me when I say this, this will not end good if you don't do something about it, In my opinion, you guys have made a sensational job of this league, and the website, it's personally the best website I've seen for any league before, and it's more competitive than ever to me at least, but seriously, you are the ONLY people I have ever seen to put up with as much crap as Zippo has this league and alot of players, personally I think he should be banned, but I'd be more than happy if he would just shutup or calm down, but it looks like neither of these will ever happen.

Just remember, you always have the power to ban him.

Honest... This time a year ago I could outdrink anyone with Vodka, I used to average on at LEAST 1.5 litres of vodka in a good night drinking...

Of course, I have massively calmed down now, actually most of the time I don't even get halfway through a 70cl and i'm bored of it...

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on August 31, 2010, 10:08 AM
Fair enough. I know who he is though

There's more than one though.

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on August 31, 2010, 09:18 AM
You could use tourney system to host a2b tourneys?

I could, but prefer doing it my way, some people that play are not registered at TuS, and refuse to register here.

Could you possibly please try to avoid having Tournaments around the same time as the weekly a2b Tournaments I host?

Quote from: DarkOneOf course people are frustrated. You guys are being annoyed constantly by the same 2 guys.
Now read this thread and pretend you're crash/Zippo. Would you be motivated to be nice to these guys?

You seem to be forgetting that we are only complaining about zippo and crash because they are the ones that started causing all this, I know they wouldn't reply nice, but it's their fault, when they both started to act bad like this none of us forced it upon them, they chose to behave like this WAY before it got out of hand like it is starting to become.

Quote from: DarkOneBut there are people here (in this very thread no less) who've had their moments that are far worse than anything Zippo has ever done, yet no one has asked us to ban them.
How would you react if a thread like this was started about one of your mates

Why do you act as if this is a fact? In MY opinion, no one in this thread has done anything near as bad as Zippo, possibly crash, but not zippo, I don't feel impersonating people for a few days, or admitting to using some program for playing warmers (not leagues so not considered cheating in my opinion) is anywhere near as bad as someone who EVERYDAY acts like a complete evil immature prick to 99% of people he plays against.

I don't know how I would react, because it depends on who it was, what they had done, and who they had done it against, if I believe one of my mates is completely out of order, then I would probably back up the decision to have them banned for a while, and that is the honest truth.

Quote from: DarkOneIf you recall, there actually was a period when Zippo was actually acting quite normally. This was after Komo had a little chat with him (kudos for that btw, Komo). If you hadn't noticed that, then you're only paying attention to Zippo when he's annoying.

Yes, and it didn't last anywhere near long enough, seeing as I was the one who spoke to Zippo, and he completely ruined it, then after the way he acted towards me in a few clanners, AFTER all the help and advice I gave him, and stuck up for him, he treats me like this? It's even worse when you try to help someone and they act like this.


Also, if you are telling us to ignore him, you are in a way giving us permission to argue like hell on the forums and ruin it for everone else, because if he can act like this and get away with it, that means ANYONE else can do it also, and I am not talking about behavoir on forums, I am also talking about having bad sportsmanship, no respect for anyone in-game, accusing people of cheating...

Don't let 1 bad apple ruin the bunch... Get rid of him for a while.

Quote from: DarkOneI remember when everybody was outraged at the banning of people in FB

That was totally different, sometimes they did ban too many people for nothing, I got banned once just for disagreeing with Kiros on the way he handled a complaint or something... I didn't really mind it though, whether I was right or wrong, in the end I realised, well, it IS his website, his league, and his rules, we get all this service for nothing, so respect things the way they want it, or don't bother going there.

In this case, I think it is more than obvious the right thing to do, not a permament ban, I'd ban him for a week to think things over (he needs to study for his "uni" anyway...).

Quote from: Anubis on August 30, 2010, 11:50 AM
I believe the problem is that people constantly complain about one (or two) person and that is simply name calling. Name calling is really a bad manner too. People get easily banned for such things in other communities. Mostly there are Stickies called: No Name Calling. On the other side there are ALWAYS rules that forbid harsh language or flames. These guys get also banned very quickly.

But you can't just ban the one person that is causing the mess when the masses are heavily involved with accusations and name calling. You draw a bad picture on Zippo when new people read this forum. Not everyone follows the threads as deeply as some of us do so they simply think: Ok Zippo is bad.
That MIGHT be right but everyone should make his own judgment if someone is bad or not. Hence name calling is forbidden and punished in other forums.

Use the little report button, don't create flame threads and, yeah, ignore him. I do too and it works.

Kai, you haven't been around, you haven't even noticed whats been going on...

We are not drawing a picture of Zippo, he drew up his own self-portrait, he brought it on himself.

Quote from: avirex on August 30, 2010, 11:13 AMand elite like moses"

How cool a weapon would that be?

At SD in an Elite, Open the water for a few turns or something lol...

Quote from: Rok on August 30, 2010, 10:52 AM
(This is generaly speaking, not picking on komo, altough it may look like: )

And what have you learned from that? To turn away and ignore his ungrateful sorry ass from then on?
NO, you obviously figured that it would be good to post another wall of text and hand him another ego injection a pathological attention seeker like him get his kicks from. Again, to all of you, read MonkeyIsland's post AGAIN and read it CAREFULLY.

No, I realised I won't offer him my help anymore, he doesn't deserve it, you can only help someone if they want to be helped, you can only force law if you are willing to take action, while I think you guys do an amazing job of this league, you are too soft, just like the modern justice system in almost every country in the world now, the reason WHY he gets his kicks out of it is because he gets away with it, NOT because we do the things we do, trust me when I say this, if someone does something wrong, and enjoy it, and gets away with it, they will continue to do it, if they do something wrong, and are severely punished for it, the chances are they will not do it again, they might try it again later, then you come down on them EVEN HARDER, and it will soon get stuck in their brain that this is wrong.

For example, the best thing my own father EVER done for me, was physically knock crap out of me, and sense into me when growing up, everytime I done something bad and got away with it, I would do more of it, whenever I done something bad and got caught, and my father found out, and knocked the crap out of me, guess what, I never done it again, because of this I stayed away from drugs like heroin, people that are just plain evil and a waste of time, and I grew up with a sense of morals and respect for other people, and I thank my father for that constantly, when he said "I am doing this for your own good" I now see what he meant.

I know this is slightly off-topic, but it's the same in UK with crime and punishement, human rights etc, and the proof is in the past:

Today, 95% of the time,  a man murders someone, gets imprisoned, with luxury, possibly better living conditions inside jail, than outside, mental help from a doctor (which doesn't work), gets out of jail 10 years later, murders someone else, gets jail for 20 years, gets back out, murders someone.

50 years ago, a man murders someone, man gets locked up for "life" lives under pathetic conditions, endures years of boredum, hard work, punishment, and harsh living conditions, gets out of jail 30-40 years later (maybe, after years of meetings and mental help) 80% of all these cases the person never commited a crime again.

100+ years ago, a man murders someone - that man gets sentenced to death, in most cases.

The further back we go, the more justice there was.

The point is: If you let someone away with something, they will keep doing it, this is fact, with proof to back it up.

I know for a fact, if zippo in real life was face to face with you, or MI, or ANY other MOD, and was acting like this to lets say, your family, or other beloved, you would NOT put up with it, I know you guys can put up with zippo's attitude, but just because you don't really care, or choose to ignore him, doesn't mean WE, have to put up with it.

And it is NOT the same few people complaining about Zippo, look at the records, I can bet at least 30 different people have made complaints about him, it's actually possibly close to 50-70, in terms of abuse they have received in-game, or some stupid comment Zippo has made about them in the games comments section.

Trust me, if WE didn't complain, someone else would, it is inevitable.

Well, I think pouring petrol over him and setting him alight would be a little too much, especially while still standing in the petrol station yourself, NOT a wise move Haha

But i'd surely and calmly do him in.

When viewing overall standings both clanners and singles, it won't let me view it in % order, I click winning percentage but it does nothing...