Quote from: Random00 on July 08, 2012, 11:10 AM
I think that most of the players that pick Hysteria against me, pick it, because they think they have the best chances of winning in this scheme.

Exactly what I'm talking about. Even if the game doesn't go your way you can still save it late game by hiding on the edge of the map, forcing SD, hope for your opponent to miss once you teleport up (of course it's a gamble, nobody has 100% accuracy, not even you Komo), and then have a big chance to gg him. The success rate of this is, as has already been said, less than 50%, but even if it were only 10% it's still ridiculously high for not doing anything productive during the entire game.

There are flaws, face it Komo. Just repeating how good you are won't change that fact, it doesn't have any weight in this topic.

Even with random turn order it's still possible to abuse piling to an extent but it's a step in the right direction.

And yes this is kinda turning into Aerial.

I rest my case, you guys make a great couple, posting stuff without an explanation or facts to back shit up.

You're f@#!ing fanboys and don't wanna see the truth because for some strange reason you still enjoy competitive Hysteria even though it's really not worlds apart from Comet Dodging, when SD kicks in anyway.

He does own at BnG Sniper but what does that have to do with this topic? That's right Sherlock, nothing.

Provide us with some insight on how to play smart Hysteria then. I reckon you've read the thread? How do you win your Hysterias? Is it the luckshotgg method? Or do you prefer the teleport until your opponent is bored way?
Do you realize that many games end because one side decides to just do or die because they can't be arsed to teleport around the map for another 30 minutes?

Take two players who are really good at Hysteria - for example Random and Gabriel. They play 10 Hysterias, trying to win at all cost and never take risks (which includes not forcing SD). How long do you think they're going to just teleport around the map in those 10 Hysterias?

Thanks for opening my eyes Komo, now I'm totally convinced after reading how awesome you are - again..

Shy it's useless, he's just that dense it seems. I've kinda given up hope on him understanding our points.

SOOOOOOO! Let's work on a new, more league-suited Hysteria scheme shall we?

I actually like to play Hysteria with my clanmates, we probably played a hundred or more Hysterias together just goofing around etc. It's just not suited to be a league scheme because if you play to win, it's a mess.

Now shush Komo, get outta here, I'm yet to see you counter one of the brought up arguments. Oh wait, MI was right to begin with. Nevermind.

I like the out-of-the-box character which the scheme has but how is it not a flaw that in Hysteria, whatever you do until lategame, can be countered with a very basic and very easy to pull off move making 90% of the games end in 1vs1 situations where most of the times one team has a much better position than the other, forcing the other to teleport to the side and eventually wait for SD just so they have a chance at winning (only in case their opponent misses that one guaranteed shot from a good position the turn after you teleport up to mostly open space).

Is it really so hard to understand that there are no other viable options to this than teleport-after-teleport-until-someone's-bored or zook-your-ass-off-until-nothing's-left-of-the-map?

Great post Shy. That's exactly what's wrong with the scheme.

It's perfectly fine to have an opinion and post it here Komo but you've done that like 10 times in this thread already, your opinion is not gonna change that's also fine but you're outright ignoring facts which makes it kinda awkward to read your self-centered posts all the time.

Limiting teleports, sounds interesting but I'm not sure about that.. Gotta test it and see how it goes once you run out of teles I guess.
You can put any number of teleports from 0 to 255 (I think) with any external scheme editor Komo.

Quote from: Komito on July 07, 2012, 05:04 PM
I just flatout disagree with that. It'd playout as a completely different game, with different gameplay.

Great flaws require great changes.

Quote from: Chicken23 on July 07, 2012, 01:20 PM
Your exaggerating though, free league schemes never have enough popularity to become classic league schemes. Alot of people will play hysteria without any problems? How else is it having alot of picks in the league?

I'll quote myself on this one.

Quote from: darKz on July 04, 2012, 09:11 PM
Back when I was a noob I picked T17 all the time because it was the only scheme where I had decent winning odds due to crate luck. Nowadays it's Hysteria where there's not even crates. I'll let you guys do the conclusion to this statement.

Quote from: Chicken23 on July 07, 2012, 11:20 AM
How is it not a problem to ignore it? You don't have to play the scheme, those that do can enjoy it. Why does it bother you if the scheme is shit if your not playing it?

TUS anyone?
I will TUS
What's your pick?
Hysteria
TUS anyone?



It's got flaws, very obvious ones, but people just keep coming here and ignoring that fact completely.

Let's just leave it like it is, maybe add Boomrace and Burning Girders to classic league.. Why not, you can just ignore it. ANARCHY!

Did you miss the last part of my post?

Just ignoring the problem is not gonna help. Hysteria needs to either be reworked (I wouldn't know how, the concept involves infinite teleports so it's going to be the same flaws no matter what you tweak) or put into free league again.

Quote from: Komito on July 07, 2012, 10:20 AM

Quote from: darKz on July 07, 2012, 10:09 AM

tl;dr - "You guys are just jealous because I own at BnG Hysteria and can think of stuff that you can't but I won't provide proof."

Seriously?

The flaws in the scheme are so obvious they're jumping right in your face yet you ignore them completely and just claim people don't enjoy it and that's why they want it removed. Way to go.

I like how you in the last few days claimed someone was "twisting your words" and yet look, how stupid do you feel now regardless who realises it?

I never said that, you did, you think that, not me, I am confident, you guys mustn't be, I dunno, stop saying shit to make me look like I am saying stuff I am not lol.


If you truly believe, that that's what I think, they say that, state it's your OPINION.

Quote from: Komitoif you have the skill level of players like me

Quote from: KomitoI am way better at BnG than you, this is my ONLY secret weapon

Quote from: KomitoI am just a genius at BnG

Quote from: KomitoI think you all jealous

I'm not feeling stupid because I'm not twisting anything.

Tom:
The thing is, if you leave the broken scheme in the classic league then people are forced to play it if their opponent picks it. If I could avoid it completely I couldn't care less and just let people enjoy their pile of shit scheme. And no, simply not playing against people who pick Hysteria is not gonna fix it either, it's time consuming enough to find games sometimes, then it would be even more so.

Quote from: Komito on July 07, 2012, 09:59 AM
If you don't enjoy an hour of Hysteria, then use SD, as simple as that.

I've never seen a Hysteria yet that took longer than 40 minutes, and i've seen plenty other schemes like WxW/T17/BnG take 30-40 minutes longer, with no complaints.

You guys are trying to use any lame excuse just to get rid of something you don't like, and it just won't work because Hysteria is too good.

I don't like other schemes, I don't try to get them pulled, I just live with them, you elitists are beginning to just be plain selfish, end of story.

And it's not JUST my skills darKz, I play the game properly, and I do use tactics maybe no one else has thought of, but that's MY knowledge and experience.

tl;dr - "You guys are just jealous because I own at BnG Hysteria and can think of stuff that you can't but I won't provide proof."

Seriously?

The flaws in the scheme are so obvious they're jumping right in your face yet you ignore them completely and just claim people don't enjoy it and that's why they want it removed. Way to go.