I think this thread has had its course long ago. I'm closing it.

@MonkeyIsland I want my replays analyzed if it's possible and I'm begging for a ban if the results are that im saving more than couple milliseconds in play. I dont want to be a part of this toxic community anymore where self-important and self-centered individuals can manipulate others to get what they want. I'm done.

Quote from: Kradie on July 12, 2025, 06:40 PMIn this specific case the cheating topic, I do not think I am dividing the community, and here is why.

The poll
The result speaks for itself, overwhelmingly number of people are against cheating in an online multiple game. Moral ambiguity is no longer shrouded in doubt. Though I do believe personally, that most people know very well deep down, that cheating was and is bad anyway.

Royal Ropers (RR). This community was made NOT to chastise and ostracize people who cheats with rope aid. It was made to highlight legit roping, without the use and glorification of rope aid. In addition to that, the recent buzz about rope scripts here on WA, and TUS, acted as a catalyst for RR creation.

Now to another thing..

Buy a new keyboard, or use worn down old keyboard, or use a broken one? I am not going to pretend that most people are sufficient with cash that they can buy expensive keyboards. If you want quality both in build and performance, you can always add more money into that. But it's not for everybody because their economic isn't that strong. Some people might not care for expensive keyboard, and rightfully so because their interest does not reside in such tech. You can easily buy a reasonable gaming keyboard for 10-60 euros Instead of having to rely on cheats.

If a person have enough passion for something, then there's no shame to buy something you can be proud of.

Look to football, if you like playing this sport, then it stands to reason you would buy shoes for best performance within your budget. Maybe you would even support your favorite football club as well.

In general: Why engage in something in that you genuinely love in a unethical fashion rather to buy something within your budget? If somebody is good at something, they have a responsibility to appear legit. It's good people are opening up here and there about their reliance on cheat. But it's not so ok to brush it under the rug because of a faulty key(s) on a kb..

Some months back I roped poorly because of keyboard. I had a Corsair K70 Pro and I was very happy with it. I had no reason to swap it out. But I had no other option because the K70 became partly defected and it didn't give me a good experience on Worms Armageddon. Some of you might think that's outrageous and crazy, but in reality it isn't because I love the game. So changing a keyboard, It's basically swapping out old shoes, keeper gloves, and baseball bat. All in the name for better time. Was it worth it? For me it was, absolutely. I paid approximately 120 bucks for this keyboard. It's also good with refresh as well.

because it's not unethical xD that's what i was trying to explain. script doesnt equal cheating. this particular one definitely not. the kawoosh infinity rope shots script okay cheating but this one?! it's laughable somebody would consider something that takes 6 months to learn cheating. im done. goodbye

In this specific case the cheating topic, I do not think I am dividing the community, and here is why.

The poll
The result speaks for itself, overwhelmingly number of people are against cheating in an online multiple game. Moral ambiguity is no longer shrouded in doubt. Though I do believe personally, that most people know very well deep down, that cheating was and is bad anyway.

Royal Ropers (RR). This community was made NOT to chastise and ostracize people who cheats with rope aid. It was made to highlight legit roping, without the use and glorification of rope aid. In addition to that, the recent buzz about rope scripts here on WA, and TUS, acted as a catalyst for RR creation.

Now to another thing..

Buy a new keyboard, or use worn down old keyboard, or use a broken one? I am not going to pretend that most people are sufficient with cash that they can buy expensive keyboards. If you want quality both in build and performance, you can always add more money into that. But it's not for everybody because their economic isn't that strong. Some people might not care for expensive keyboard, and rightfully so because their interest does not reside in such tech. You can easily buy a reasonable gaming keyboard for 10-60 euros Instead of having to rely on cheats.

If a person have enough passion for something, then there's no shame to buy something you can be proud of.

Look to football, if you like playing this sport, then it stands to reason you would buy shoes for best performance within your budget. Maybe you would even support your favorite football club as well.

In general: Why engage in something in that you genuinely love in a unethical fashion rather to buy something within your budget? If somebody is good at something, they have a responsibility to appear legit. It's good people are opening up here and there about their reliance on cheat. But it's not so ok to brush it under the rug because of a faulty key(s) on a kb..

Some months back I roped poorly because of keyboard. I had a Corsair K70 Pro and I was very happy with it. I had no reason to swap it out. But I had no other option because the K70 became partly defected and it didn't give me a good experience on Worms Armageddon. Some of you might think that's outrageous and crazy, but in reality it isn't because I love the game. So changing a keyboard, It's basically swapping out old shoes, keeper gloves, and baseball bat. All in the name for better time. Was it worth it? For me it was, absolutely. I paid approximately 120 bucks for this keyboard. It's also good with refresh as well.

@Micro

I've already made the points in this thread I need to make.

Cheaters are cheaters, once found out their games should be void and they should be banned from competing.

People using scripts are capable of doing moves they wouldn't be able to otherwise.

People who use any kind of cheats no matter how ridiculously they try to justify it are still cheaters and still not as skilled as they appear to be.

Cheaters have zero integrity.

Quote from: Igrokot on July 12, 2025, 08:07 AMIt's cool, but it's kind of crooked. But at least someone thought of doing something like that.

Perhaps something looks crooked, I had to figure it out from scratch) But thanks for the feedback!

Counter-Strike's (CS:GO, CS2) cheating problem is primarily due to official servers not being moderated properly. TUS League is moderated tho.

end of story imo

Quote from: TheKomodo on July 12, 2025, 11:37 AMKradie - You were never super fast at taps anyway, you don't need to be to be a solid roper though, look at blitzed.

Micro - Absolutely nobody is surprised lol.

Not surprised either. Great job on how to completely omit the point i was making Komo.

Kradie - You were never super fast at taps anyway, you don't need to be to be a solid roper though, look at blitzed.

Micro - Absolutely nobody is surprised lol.

WA is optimized for Win11 for me, works perfectly fine.

Also, Chicken23, I somewhat agree with you, hence the 3 scheme TRL thing a while ago. I really enjoyed that but unfortunately wish the idea was 5 years prior so it had much better activity.