How an avoiding rule would work

TheWalrus · June 11, 2012, 09:27 PM

Quote from: fr4nk on June 11, 2012, 09:21 PM
I just advise you guys to talk with Chelsea, or boot him, or kill him with a baseball bat.

Frank wins this round, hahaha. FTW!

In all seriousness, Dub's plan seems a bit extreme, penalizing the max points. I agree that should you avoid consistently, there should be some sort of punishment. A suspension wouldn't really work, maybe a reduced amount of points lost? the max seems a little much.

Dub-c · June 11, 2012, 10:27 PM

Quote from: TheWalrus on June 11, 2012, 09:27 PM
Quote from: fr4nk on June 11, 2012, 09:21 PM
I just advise you guys to talk with Chelsea, or boot him, or kill him with a baseball bat.
Frank wins this round, hahaha. FTW!

In all seriousness, Dub's plan seems a bit extreme, penalizing the max points. I agree that should you avoid consistently, there should be some sort of punishment. A suspension wouldn't really work, maybe a reduced amount of points lost? the max seems a little much.

The punishment must be worse then the avoiding. If the clan or player avoids and is punished 50 points and if they played and lost they would lose 75 points. Avoiding is the best way.

If you lose the maximum amount of points, its always better to play then avoid.

P.s Frank: The thread is not aimed to bash Chelsea or eS but to show how an avoiding rule would work.

fr4nk · June 11, 2012, 11:45 PM

Yeah, mine was such an off topic.

Crazy · June 12, 2012, 12:26 AM

I like this idea Dub. I haven`t experienced anyone avoiding (obviously TdC is not looked upon as the biggest threat around), so I don`t know how big the problem is on WN today. I remember it was a problem in previous leagues though.

About chelsea: chelsea I`m gay and even I have bigger balls then you. Be a man and stop avoiding. I love you

Dub-c · June 12, 2012, 03:01 AM

Quote from: Crazy on June 12, 2012, 12:26 AM
I like this idea Dub. I haven`t experienced anyone avoiding (obviously TdC is not looked upon as the biggest threat around), so I don`t know how big the problem is on WN today. I remember it was a problem in previous leagues though.

About chelsea: chelsea I`m gay and even I have bigger balls then you. Be a man and stop avoiding. I love you

Yes, big problem, little problem, or no problem there should be a rule regardless

Almog · June 12, 2012, 04:34 AM

nice dub
the penalty should be harsh enough to stop clans avoiding, I wouldn't mind if it were 200 pts per game. once clan has got punished he won't avoid again, and if it would, I guess they'd have some talks in their private forums and kick some of their members who are responsible

by the way, frank, u cracked me off LOL

Random00 · June 12, 2012, 03:11 PM

I generally like the idea. I just see one problem there: How can you tell someone is avoiding?
I mean sometimes you ask for clanner/tus and something important comes up in rl, so you're not able to play. I dont think it's avoiding in this case.
If it was, then this rule will decrease activity imo, which is even worse than having a few guys around who avoid.

r3spect · June 12, 2012, 05:09 PM

if true iam kinda sad about chelsea behavior i promise guys i try talk with him

TheKomodo · June 12, 2012, 05:13 PM

I agree too, MI, get it done !

r3spect · June 12, 2012, 05:15 PM

btw i agree too.

Aerox · June 12, 2012, 05:33 PM

avoiding measures can be applied to the league system quite easily with maths.

I'm sure it wouldn't too hard of a task for MI if he fully understands the principle behind it

DENnis · June 12, 2012, 06:22 PM

Quote from: r3spect on June 12, 2012, 05:09 PM
if true iam kinda sad about chelsea behavior i promise guys i try talk with him

Just look at his TRL: Hysteria - Session 8. He kept noobbashing like that 15-0 (90% "freewins"). So I asked him friendly for trl about every day for a week. He avoided to play vs me and other good players who would probably beat him many times, like Blinky and Komo. I already talked to MI while playing BigRR with him (Ty for that nice games btw) about that problem.
Without that avoiding and all that noobbashing he wouldn't even come close to PlayOffs. Chelsea isn't that hard to beat and he knows it.

I just remember Chelseas real cheating vs me when I was more nooby and new to tus (a long time ago ^^) in a wfw. 99% I had won. Then he cheated on purpose and teled to the top of the map without walking to a teleport, he was not even close to one and couldnt walk because I petroled him good.

Ofc I couldnt attack him at top and he killed my worm by cheating ... He really uploaded that "cheated on purpose"-game.

Well the game was void after people told me to start a complain and the mods said I can upload it as my victory, but I never did it because I was new at TUS and really hated all that cheating and lameness already.

Without (sometimes funny) guys like Peja I would've probably start to avoid TUS (like many other freestylers do) because of cheaters like Chelsea.
In that trl session I talked with Chelsea but he just admit that he's a lame avoider (so he doesn't even care about subsequent damages (for TUS for example) because of bad and pathetic behaviour like that).

Hussar · June 13, 2012, 07:24 AM

Am sure then he will not even respond u.

Tomi · June 13, 2012, 09:14 AM

Chelsea won't respond, because he is muted

fr4nk · June 13, 2012, 09:25 AM

He's just avoiding.