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Speed Cup #4 Hysteria

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Name: Speed Cup #4 Hysteria
Type: Public
Game type: 1vs1
Created: October 04, 2023, 08:12 AM

Cup scheme(s): scheme Hysteria
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Signups time: October 04, 2023, 12:00 AM

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Description:
Description:
Welcome to the second Speed Cup. This time for scheme it will be Hysteria.

Who is speed cup for?
For people who can handle tight deadline easily and finish their games asap.

Scheme: Hysteria.
Rules: None.
Map: Any random Island map.
Worms: 4.

Group Stage: 5 days & bo1.
Knockout Stage: 5 days & bo3.
Final (GOLD): 1 day & Bo5.

Schedule games with: TUS PM System, THIS cup page, discord, and snooper.
Can't find your opponent? Ask the moderator and the community.
Log all conversations in case of complications with contenders.

If you fail to follow Instructions & deadline, you must be expected to be disqualified.

Signup Starts: Once Approved.
Signup Duration: 1 day max.
Players needed: Minimum 6.
Player limit: None.

Cup Medals:

Knockout

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Deadline: October 17, 2023, 05:00 PM
Results
Results

Final

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Bronze Match

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Gold

Silver

Bronze
Results
Results
Results
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Groups

Deadline: October 10, 2023, 11:00 PM
Group 1
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Brazil Camper STF ea 2 2 0
Norway Kradie ZaR 2 1 1
Russian Federation kirill470 2 0 2
Games [3]
ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
238621 Brazil Camper Norway Kradie
1:0		 October 05, 2023, 05:47 PM 0
238620 Brazil Camper Russian Federation kirill470
1:0		 October 05, 2023, 05:38 PM 0
238619 Norway Kradie Russian Federation kirill470
1:0		 October 05, 2023, 05:31 PM 0
Group 2
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Brazil Kaleu STF ea rrX 4 3 1
Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan STF ae ZaR 4 2 2
Poland Ledan AQUA PoC 4 1 3
Games [6] • Notes [1]
ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
238698 Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan Poland Ledan
1:0		 October 09, 2023, 05:25 PM 0
238695 Brazil Kaleu Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan
1:0		 October 09, 2023, 03:23 PM 0
238694 Brazil Kaleu Poland Ledan
1:0		 October 09, 2023, 03:23 PM 0
238677 Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan Brazil Kaleu
1:0		 October 08, 2023, 03:26 PM 1
238676 Brazil Kaleu Poland Ledan
1:0		 October 08, 2023, 01:43 PM 2
238643 Poland Ledan Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan
1:0		 October 06, 2023, 04:14 PM 9
[October 06, 2023, 04:29 PM] Poland Ledan: This guy is actively throwing
Group 3
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Ukraine Lancelot RB pH ae 2 2 0
Mexico Jago pH ae 2 1 1
Italy Blaskowicz ICB ZaR sW 2 0 2
Games [3] • Notes [3]
ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
238678 Mexico Jago Italy Blaskowicz
1:0		 October 08, 2023, 05:47 PM 0
238640 Ukraine Lancelot Italy Blaskowicz
1:0		 October 06, 2023, 03:33 PM 0
238630 Ukraine Lancelot Mexico Jago
1:0		 October 05, 2023, 09:16 PM 0
[October 05, 2023, 07:03 PM] Ukraine Lancelot: I can play from 15:00 to 20:00 GMT
[October 07, 2023, 04:42 PM] Mexico Jago: Hey Blasko, what time u can play?
[October 07, 2023, 04:43 PM] Mexico Jago: have Discord?
Group 4
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Ukraine Rocket ICB a2a 2 2 0
United States TheWalrus CKC S17 a2a 2 1 1
Germany Big Billy ICB sm NfBX 2 0 2
Games [3]
ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
238664 United States TheWalrus Germany Big Billy
1:0		 October 07, 2023, 06:12 PM 0
238631 Ukraine Rocket United States TheWalrus
1:0		 October 05, 2023, 11:06 PM 0
238629 Ukraine Rocket Germany Big Billy
1:0		 October 05, 2023, 08:24 PM 0

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Offline Rocket

Re: Cup #1218, Speed Cup #4 Hysteria
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2023, 08:27 AM »
already pm'ed Camper on TUS and Facebook. Hope we play it this evening
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Offline Kradie

Re: Cup #1218, Speed Cup #4 Hysteria
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2023, 05:09 PM »
The cup is now over and the final was not played. I do not fault Kalue and Walrus they tried. I have chosen to proceed Kalue as winner of this cup. If you do not like this, be more vigilant next time.

Thank you all for playing this cup. See you next time!
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Offline TheWalrus

Re: Cup #1218, Speed Cup #4 Hysteria
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2023, 05:52 PM »
Can't we just play the final?  I showed up at the agreed time yesterday, Kaleu couldn't because of circumstances beyond his control.  I don't see the harm in actually playing the game?  I was looking forward to playing Kaleu here.  Was 5-0 in hysteria cup finals, this is a really lame way to "lose."  If not, can mods please remove my medal I was "awarded."  I could see this decision if I didn't make an efort to play the game, but that clearly isn't the case here.
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Offline Lancelot

Re: Cup #1218, Speed Cup #4 Hysteria
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2023, 05:54 PM »
It's been a long time since I've seen such injustice, an unplayed final and free medals LOL
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Offline TheKomodo

Re: Cup #1218, Speed Cup #4 Hysteria
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2023, 05:59 PM »
Wait...

Why is Kaleu getting the medal if he was the one who didn't show?

Don't worry, if there is not a valid enough reason, this decision can be reveresed and dealt with more appropriately.

We will figure this out together.
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Offline TheWalrus

Re: Cup #1218, Speed Cup #4 Hysteria
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2023, 06:01 PM »
Quote from: TheKomodo on October 17, 2023, 05:59 PM
Wait...

Why is Kaleu getting the medal if he was the one who didn't show?

We will figure this out together.
Probably because he played his semifinal match earlier.  Kaleu is willing to play me today but Kradie has his own agenda I think.  To be fair, Kaleu couldnt play because of circumstance outside his control, lightning storm near his house.  I believe he would have showed up if he could.  If the decision was reversed, I still wouldn't like it, it wouldn't be fair to Kaleu.  I don't want the gold medal or the silver medal from this, just want to play the final of the cup.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2023, 06:05 PM by TheWalrus »
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Offline Kradie

Re: Cup #1218, Speed Cup #4 Hysteria
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2023, 06:04 PM »
It isn't fun for me neither. I didn't even like to have to have done this. But deadline is deadline and there is going to be reprucussions. There is going to be unhappy people. We can remove gold and silver no problem but I won't accepst games played after deadline. Sounds extremely unfair right? Well it is life. You can't send in exam paper after deadline and get a result. The truth is, sometime things are out of control and we must face and accept it and move on.

If games would be played after deadline what would be the point?

If someone can convince me with unbiased arguments I can be open for consideration.

If I sound strict well that's because I am. Finals are VERY Important thing.

Quote from: TheWalrus on October 17, 2023, 06:01 PM
Probably because he played his semifinal match earlier.  Kaleu is willing to play me today but Kradie has his own agenda I think.  To be fair, Kaleu couldnt play because of circumstance outside his control, lightning storm near his house.  I believe he would have showed up if he could.  If the decision was reversed, I still wouldn't like it, it would be fair to Kaleu.  I don't want the gold medal or the silver medal from this, just want to play the final of the cup.
I have no agendas with anyone. That's paranoia Walrus.
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Offline TheWalrus

Re: Cup #1218, Speed Cup #4 Hysteria
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2023, 06:08 PM »
Quote from: Kradie on October 17, 2023, 06:04 PM
I have no agendas with anyone. That's paranoia Walrus.
Ending the cup without allowing us to have a few hours extension to play the game, is by definition, an agenda.
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Offline Kradie

Re: Cup #1218, Speed Cup #4 Hysteria
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2023, 06:10 PM »
Quote from: TheWalrus on October 17, 2023, 06:08 PM
Ending the cup without allowing us to have a few hours extension to play the game, is by definition, an agenda.
Why would i have an agenda? I like both you and Kalue, i got no quarrels with you two. In fact, my decisive action has probably hurt me more. So how does me having an agenda even benefit me? It doesn't make sense. This is a matter of principle. You had a deadline to follow, you both did, and things happened. That's it.
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Offline TheKomodo

Re: Cup #1218, Speed Cup #4 Hysteria
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2023, 06:14 PM »
Kradie, I understand and sympathize with your desire for strict deadlines.

I would also argue that I'm more personally bothered than anyone else in the history of this game for being let down when people don't show up, play their games on time, or even make an effort.

It's frustrating beyond belief when people don't make an effort or prioritize their matches.

It's completely different when there are mitigating circumstances though, such as this.

You are within your rights as the Cup moderator to end it, however you have given the medal to the wrong person.

The Final is a separate match, Walrus showed up, Kaleu didn't.

There are 3 suitable options:

  • Extend the deadline and let them play their match tonight.
  • Reverse the decision so nobody gets a medal and just close the Cup.
  • Give thewalrus the Gold medal as he's the one who showed up.



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Offline TheWalrus

Re: Cup #1218, Speed Cup #4 Hysteria
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2023, 06:21 PM »
Quote from: TheKomodo on October 17, 2023, 06:14 PM
Kradie, I understand and sympathize with your desire for strict deadlines.

I would also argue that I'm more personally bothered than anyone else in the history of this game for being let down when people don't show up, play their games on time, or even make an effort.

It's frustrating beyond belief when people don't make an effort or prioritize their matches.

It's completely different when there are mitigating circumstances though, such as this.

You are within your rights as the Cup moderator to end it, however you have given the medal to the wrong person.

The Final is a separate match, Walrus showed up, Kaleu didn't.

There are 3 suitable options:

  • Extend the deadline and let them play their match tonight.
  • Reverse the decision so nobody gets a medal and just close the Cup.
  • Give thewalrus the Gold medal as he's the one who showed up.
Just to be clear, I do not want and will not accept the gold medal if no game is played.  Kaleu and I plan to play the final tonight.  The rest is up to Kradie.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2023, 06:23 PM by TheWalrus »
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Offline Kradie

Re: Cup #1218, Speed Cup #4 Hysteria
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2023, 06:25 PM »
Quote from: TheKomodo on October 17, 2023, 06:14 PM
Kradie, I understand and sympathize with your desire for strict deadlines.

I would also argue that I'm more personally bothered than anyone else in the history of this game for being let down when people don't show up, play their games on time, or even make an effort.

It's frustrating beyond belief when people don't make an effort or prioritize their matches.

It's completely different when there are mitigating circumstances though, such as this.

You are within your rights as the Cup moderator to end it, however you have given the medal to the wrong person.

The Final is a separate match, Walrus showed up, Kaleu didn't.

There are 3 suitable options:

  • Extend the deadline and let them play their match tonight.
  • Reverse the decision so nobody gets a medal and just close the Cup.
  • Give thewalrus the Gold medal as he's the one who showed up.
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Offline TheKomodo

Re: Cup #1218, Speed Cup #4 Hysteria
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2023, 06:32 PM »
Ok, that's fair enough.

So Kradie has decided to give no medals to 1st and 2nd.

Though, you guys should still play tonight and post it somewhere so we know who the real winner was!

I'd like to stream but I don't think Kaleu would like that.
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Offline Big Billy

Re: Cup #1218, Speed Cup #4 Hysteria
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2023, 06:43 PM »
Kinda childish. They are willing to play the game, just missing the deadline by some days/hours whatever.
So no one gets medals, so I made them or nothing. Thanks. Bye.
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Offline TheKomodo

Re: Cup #1218, Speed Cup #4 Hysteria
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2023, 06:47 PM »
I can understand that frustration Billy, though I understand and empathize with the frustration of TheWalrus more.

The most important aspect of recorded statistics in competitive events for me personally is, the truth!

Getting medals you didn't earn or deserve, or having losses on your record that you didn't actually lose, is absurd! Or aliases messing up ranking or any other nonsense...

I'm hoping MonkeyIsland can introduce something that gives players the option to forfeit from the stage they are at exit, without having a loss show up on their win % record.

There is a difference between losing an actual match, and not playing an actual match. There should be something to reflect that more accurately.
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