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Name: Team17 Experimental Cup - T17 cup with a new scheme and $30 prize
Type: Public
Game type: 1vs1
Joining required percentage: 50%
Created: October 07, 2015, 02:46 PM

Cup scheme(s): scheme Team17 balanced
Click on the book to download the scheme. Click on the scheme name to view the scheme page.

Signups time: October 09, 2015, 12:00 PM

Finished


Description:
This is a Team17 cup with a new scheme edition. The cup has also a little carrot: $30 for the winner (via PayPal) ;)

The cup scheme is a remix of Chicken23's "Balanced T17" scheme. Likewise in Chicken23's scheme, the most weapons have an equal chance of occuring in a crate. See the differences:



Other than that, the scheme is the same as TUS scheme.

Cup details:
- 16 players
- TUS rules
- Use the cup scheme only!
- KO single-elimination
- All games Bo1
- $20 $30 for the winner (Sponsored by VoK, originally by MI/obscure :-[)

Knockout

Deadline: November 15, 2015, 09:00 PM


Final


Bronze Match

HHC Netherlands
cheeameow

Gold

Silver

Bronze

HHC Netherlands
cheeameow

HHC Netherlands
cheeameow

HHC Netherlands
cheeameow

VoK Finland
TdCVDVea

Groups

Deadline: October 25, 2015, 09:00 PM

Group 1

Country Player Groups Total Won Lost
Poland Chelsea
dtpHKfBoM
4 4 0 #1
Croatia doza
4 2 2
Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan
BFWaedS
4 2 2 #2
Chile Lukz
TaGea
3 1 2
Australia Kangaroo
BFWpHae
3 0 3
Deadline: November 01, 2015, 09:00 PM
Games [9]Notes [1]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
200145
1:0
November 05, 2015, 10:50 AM 0
199791
1:0
October 26, 2015, 10:59 AM 0
199632
1:0
October 22, 2015, 09:01 AM 0
199536
1:0
October 19, 2015, 07:53 PM 0
199535
1:0
October 19, 2015, 07:34 PM 0
199524
1:0
October 19, 2015, 03:04 PM 0
199336
1:0
October 15, 2015, 04:12 PM 0
199333
1:0
October 15, 2015, 02:37 PM 0
199235
1:0
October 12, 2015, 04:14 PM 0

[October 19, 2015, 12:14 PM] : if you see me in AG -> PM

Group 2

Country Player Groups Total Won Lost
Netherlands HHC
cheeameowVDV
4 4 0 #1
Israel Almog
ea
4 3 1 #2
Brazil KungPow
WM`
3 1 2
Norway Kradie
ZaR
3 0 3
Finland Free
dtWARea
2 0 2
Games [8]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
199473
Netherlands HHC

1:0
October 17, 2015, 10:02 PM 0
199463
1:0
October 17, 2015, 07:49 PM 0
199460
1:0
October 17, 2015, 06:48 PM 0
199454
Netherlands HHC

1:0
October 17, 2015, 05:50 PM 0
199449
1:0
October 17, 2015, 05:19 PM 0
199349
1:0
October 15, 2015, 05:54 PM 0
199348
Netherlands HHC

1:0
October 15, 2015, 05:50 PM 0
199342
Netherlands HHC

1:0
October 15, 2015, 04:44 PM 0

Group 3

Country Player Groups Total Won Lost
Germany WhiteRqbbit
ea
4 3 1 #1
Hungary Csongi
dPrMea
4 2 2 #2
Poland Hussar
dPea
4 2 2
Brazil GreatProfe
CKCCWCaeDOS
4 2 2
Bulgaria taner 4 1 3
Deadline: November 01, 2015, 09:00 PM
Games [10]Notes [1]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
200087
1:0
November 02, 2015, 10:24 PM 0
200052
1:0
November 01, 2015, 06:18 PM 0
199760
1:0
October 25, 2015, 06:26 PM 0
199757
1:0
October 25, 2015, 04:01 PM 1
5/5
199640
1:0
October 22, 2015, 08:06 PM 0
199639
1:0
October 22, 2015, 07:24 PM 0
199509
1:0
October 18, 2015, 06:55 PM 0
5/5
199490
1:0
October 18, 2015, 03:05 PM 0
5/5
199455
1:0
October 17, 2015, 06:21 PM 0
199356
1:0
October 15, 2015, 07:24 PM 0

[October 16, 2015, 11:11 AM] : PM me on AG noobs

Group 4

Country Player Groups Total Won Lost
Finland VoK
TdCVDV
4 3 1 #1
Finland Senator
TdCVDV
4 3 1 #2
Italy Sbaffo 4 2 2
Ukraine Lancelot
RStSpH
4 1 3
Ukraine Asbest
4 1 3
Games [10]Notes [1]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
199635
1:0
October 22, 2015, 12:28 PM 0
5/5
199525
1:0
October 19, 2015, 03:09 PM 0
5/5
199489
Finland VoK

1:0
October 18, 2015, 02:32 PM 0
5/5
199488
Finland VoK

1:0
October 18, 2015, 01:57 PM 0
199403
1:0
October 16, 2015, 05:27 PM 0
199396
1:0
October 16, 2015, 01:15 PM 0
199350
Finland VoK

1:0
October 15, 2015, 06:01 PM 0
199343
1:0
October 15, 2015, 05:08 PM 0
199303
Finland VoK

1:0
October 14, 2015, 03:03 PM 0
199249
1:0
October 12, 2015, 07:45 PM 0

[October 15, 2015, 03:48 PM] : i will bw in #AG 15-20:00 GMT time

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Free

1 kamikaze would be a needed addition to the scheme.

VoK


Senator

#17
Sticked to 16 players. Those who were excluded haven't played T17 in tus/trl or had the lowest rating.

GL HF

Group stage deadline is Sunday 2015-10-25 (2 weeks).

Group 4: host, sponsor, mafioso :D

Kradie

This is unfair, I was looking forward to participate.
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Chicken23

Quote from: Senator on October 08, 2015, 01:12 PM
Quote from: HHC on October 08, 2015, 11:34 AM
With so many handguns/bats/crap weaps in it's hardly possible to do any serious harm before SD. And with the low TUS scores on SD weaps.. it's likely you end up with many drawn games.  :-[
I can see this only working with more time on the clock tbh.

That's what I said about Chicken23's scheme

Quote from: Senator on February 16, 2015, 01:45 PM
I guess there is a reason for the current crate probabilities. In your scheme probability for powerful non-SD weapons is lower so it's more difficult to kill the opponent with non-SD weapons. That means games will be more often SD weapon battles than before, or?

Wasn't water rise also slower when all weapons had the same probability? You had then more time to kill the opponent with non-SD weapons than in TUS scheme.

I think the greater number of shitty weapons doesn't affect that much after all. But we'll see about that :P

How many early kills do u see with the TUS "boom boom" scheme anyway? A worm gets attacked once by a big bomb and then it's moved to a cover. No TUS game ends before SD and usually u have at least 3 worms left heading to SD.

I disagree and believe the scheme to be the best edit so far after the global acceptance that old t17 channel and FB schemes (of all equal chances with couple of edits) creates too many sd weapons.

This goes back to original t17 schemes but with some slight changes to the sd weapons. You still get plenty of powerful weapons to make damage to a worm for more than 60+, but you also have to learn to deal with the cr8 of getting the shitty weapons.

tus t17 is the worst t17 scheme in the history of wa.

Kradie

So in other words, I am not deemed worthy to participate in this cup because I have no official rating?  Because I when I first signed up for this cup I failed to see a minimum requirement to partake. Besides I was way before 16 too.

I'm just a player of this community along with those who got removed, that only wanted to play. Where is the equality in all of this, Senator? Why couldn't the rest play? Because we lacked points and status?

The groups that are paired are obviously paired by clans and it feels very bias.
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Schemes I mostly play: Big RRz and Roperz.

https://worms2d.info/People/Kradie

Senator

#22
Quote from: Kradie on October 11, 2015, 08:06 PM
So in other words, I am not deemed worthy to participate in this cup because I have no official rating?  Because I when I first signed up for this cup I failed to see a minimum requirement to partake. Besides I was way before 16 too.

I'm just a player of this community along with those who got removed, that only wanted to play. Where is the equality in all of this, Senator? Why couldn't the rest play? Because we lacked points and status?

The groups that are paired are obviously paired by clans and it feels very bias.

I wanted 4 players groups (16 players) and we got 19 players so I had to cut off some players. This is "experimental cup" so I wanted players who have a lot of experience of T17 to participate, that's why it was appropriate to choose players based on T17 experience/rating. This is just one cup among others.. you have chance to participate in many upcoming cups :)

If the groups were paired by clans, then Sbaffo, Free and Chelsea should be in the same group, right? Afaik I clicked pair by totally random :-X

Kradie

#23
Quote from: Senator on October 11, 2015, 08:52 PM
Quote from: Kradie on October 11, 2015, 08:06 PM
So in other words, I am not deemed worthy to participate in this cup because I have no official rating?  Because I when I first signed up for this cup I failed to see a minimum requirement to partake. Besides I was way before 16 too.

I'm just a player of this community along with those who got removed, that only wanted to play. Where is the equality in all of this, Senator? Why couldn't the rest play? Because we lacked points and status?

The groups that are paired are obviously paired by clans and it feels very bias.

I wanted 4 players groups (16 players) and we got 19 players so I had to cut off some players. This is "experimental cup" so I wanted players who have a lot of experience of T17 to participate, that's why it was appropriate to choose players based on T17 experience/rating. This is just one cup among others.. you have chance to participate in many upcoming cups :)

If the groups were paired by clans, then Sbaffo, Free and Chelsea should be in the same group, right? Afaik I clicked pair by totally random :-X

So I am not ''experienced'' because I am not ranked on tus? While I don't have my ranks documented here, I am experienced with Team17, and that is why I decided to sign up for this cup.

You say that this is ''Experimental cup'' and only ''experienced'' players may partake, why would a price be involved in an experiment?  Besides, look how you promote your cup ''T17 cup with a new scheme and $30 prize''

You could have left your desired cup details in the cup.  Instead of leading people on.
Or have it closed and then browse for players with ''Experience'' and invite them.

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Schemes I mostly play: Big RRz and Roperz.

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spleen17

Senator, you could just have set the cup to auto-close at 16... It is not fair to pick and choose who plays in a public cup.

Really lame, dude.

Kangaroo

Hey everyone in My group.. I can only play CUP games  07:00-12:00 GMT weeksdays &  00:00-13:00 GMT on weekends...

Please send me a time thats good for you within these hours and I will be there...

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Sbaffo

Does it mean i am experienced? Huehuehue

Senator

@Kradie

I had no idea how experienced u are. Tus stats are pretty much the only source out there and u hadn't any stats. That indicates u haven't played the tus scheme version much.

A prize is involved because obviously not many would be interested in pure scheme testing. At the same time I wanted a high level competition, which wouldn't be possible without a prize.

I thought about closed signups and at first I had "players will be chosen based on T17 ratings" written in the cup details. But then I realized we might not get enough players that way :-[

@spleen17

Imo it's totally fine to have signups open for some days and then choose players based on objective measures (rating/played games). It would be stupid to just give the spots to those who surf on TUS sites several times per day. This arrangement indeed was fair because it gave everyone a chance, not just for the most active members. I could have selected players by random instead but obviously I didn't want to exclude the best t17 players.

Korydex

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spleen17

Quote from: Senator on October 12, 2015, 07:55 AM

Imo it's totally fine to have signups open for some days and then choose players based on objective measures (rating/played games). It would be stupid to just give the spots to those who surf on TUS sites several times per day. This arrangement indeed was fair because it gave everyone a chance, not just for the most active members. I could have selected players by random instead but obviously I didn't want to exclude the best t17 players.

You didn;t have to exclude anyone, you could have just waited for 1 more and started with 20. You would still have got the feedback you wanted on the scheme.

It just seems like elitism. You are one of those who is always moaning about the drop in activity... how do you expect new players to start playing if they just get discarded from cups and such? It's a shame to see imo.