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Team17 Experimental Cup

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Name: Team17 Experimental Cup - T17 cup with a new scheme and $30 prize
Type: Public
Game type: 1vs1
Joining required percentage: 50%
Created: October 07, 2015, 02:46 PM

Cup scheme(s): scheme Team17 balanced
Click on the book to download the scheme. Click on the scheme name to view the scheme page.

Signups time: October 09, 2015, 12:00 PM

Finished


Description:
This is a Team17 cup with a new scheme edition. The cup has also a little carrot: $30 for the winner (via PayPal) ;)

The cup scheme is a remix of Chicken23's "Balanced T17" scheme. Likewise in Chicken23's scheme, the most weapons have an equal chance of occuring in a crate. See the differences:



Other than that, the scheme is the same as TUS scheme.

Cup details:
- 16 players
- TUS rules
- Use the cup scheme only!
- KO single-elimination
- All games Bo1
- $20 $30 for the winner (Sponsored by VoK, originally by MI/obscure :-[)

Knockout

Deadline: November 15, 2015, 09:00 PM


Final


Bronze Match


Gold

Silver

Bronze





Groups

Deadline: October 25, 2015, 09:00 PM
Group 1
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Poland Chelsea dt pH Kf BoM 4 4 0
Croatia doza 4 2 2
Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan BFW ae dS 4 2 2
Chile Lukz TaG ea 3 1 2
Australia Kangaroo BFW pH ae 3 0 3
Deadline: November 01, 2015, 09:00 PM
Games [9]Notes [1]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
200145 Poland Chelsea Australia Kangaroo
1:0
November 05, 2015, 10:50 AM 0
199791 Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan Australia Kangaroo
1:0
October 26, 2015, 10:59 AM 0
199632 Croatia doza Australia Kangaroo
1:0
October 22, 2015, 09:01 AM 0
199536 Croatia doza Chile Lukz
1:0
October 19, 2015, 07:53 PM 0
199535 Chile Lukz Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan
1:0
October 19, 2015, 07:34 PM 0
199524 Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan Croatia doza
1:0
October 19, 2015, 03:04 PM 0
199336 Poland Chelsea Croatia doza
1:0
October 15, 2015, 04:12 PM 0
199333 Poland Chelsea Saudi Arabia Mega`Adnan
1:0
October 15, 2015, 02:37 PM 0
199235 Poland Chelsea Chile Lukz
1:0
October 12, 2015, 04:14 PM 0

[October 19, 2015, 12:14 PM] Croatia doza: if you see me in AG -> PM
Group 2
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Netherlands HHC che ea meow VDV 4 4 0
Israel Almog ea 4 3 1
Brazil KungPow WM` 3 1 2
Norway Kradie ZaR 3 0 3
Finland Free dt WAR ea 2 0 2
Games [8]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
199473 Netherlands HHC Brazil KungPow
1:0
October 17, 2015, 10:02 PM 0
199463 Israel Almog Norway Kradie
1:0
October 17, 2015, 07:49 PM 0
199460 Israel Almog Brazil KungPow
1:0
October 17, 2015, 06:48 PM 0
199454 Netherlands HHC Norway Kradie
1:0
October 17, 2015, 05:50 PM 0
199449 Brazil KungPow Norway Kradie
1:0
October 17, 2015, 05:19 PM 0
199349 Israel Almog Finland Free
1:0
October 15, 2015, 05:54 PM 0
199348 Netherlands HHC Finland Free
1:0
October 15, 2015, 05:50 PM 0
199342 Netherlands HHC Israel Almog
1:0
October 15, 2015, 04:44 PM 0
Group 3
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Germany WhiteRqbbit ea 4 3 1
Hungary Csongi dP rM ea 4 2 2
Poland Hussar dP ea 4 2 2
Brazil GreatProfe CKC CWC ae DOS 4 2 2
Bulgaria taner MTY MAF 4 1 3
Deadline: November 01, 2015, 09:00 PM
Games [10]Notes [1]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
200087 Brazil GreatProfe Poland Hussar
1:0
November 02, 2015, 10:24 PM 0
200052 Germany WhiteRqbbit Brazil GreatProfe
1:0
November 01, 2015, 06:18 PM 0
199760 Hungary Csongi Brazil GreatProfe
1:0
October 25, 2015, 06:26 PM 0
199757 Brazil GreatProfe Bulgaria taner
1:0
October 25, 2015, 04:01 PM 1
5/5
199640 Germany WhiteRqbbit Hungary Csongi
1:0
October 22, 2015, 08:06 PM 0
199639 Poland Hussar Germany WhiteRqbbit
1:0
October 22, 2015, 07:24 PM 0
199509 Poland Hussar Bulgaria taner
1:0
October 18, 2015, 06:55 PM 0
5/5
199490 Germany WhiteRqbbit Bulgaria taner
1:0
October 18, 2015, 03:05 PM 0
5/5
199455 Bulgaria taner Hungary Csongi
1:0
October 17, 2015, 06:21 PM 0
199356 Hungary Csongi Poland Hussar
1:0
October 15, 2015, 07:24 PM 0

[October 16, 2015, 11:11 AM] Bulgaria taner: PM me on AG noobs
Group 4
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Finland VoK TdC VDV 4 3 1
Finland Senator TdC VDV 4 3 1
Italy Sbaffo dt 420 4 2 2
Ukraine Lancelot RS tS pH 4 1 3
Ukraine Asbest 4 1 3
Games [10]Notes [1]

ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
199635 Italy Sbaffo Ukraine Asbest
1:0
October 22, 2015, 12:28 PM 0
5/5
199525 Finland Senator Ukraine Asbest
1:0
October 19, 2015, 03:09 PM 0
5/5
199489 Finland VoK Ukraine Asbest
1:0
October 18, 2015, 02:32 PM 0
5/5
199488 Finland VoK Italy Sbaffo
1:0
October 18, 2015, 01:57 PM 0
199403 Ukraine Asbest Ukraine Lancelot
1:0
October 16, 2015, 05:27 PM 0
199396 Italy Sbaffo Ukraine Lancelot
1:0
October 16, 2015, 01:15 PM 0
199350 Ukraine Lancelot Finland VoK
1:0
October 15, 2015, 06:01 PM 0
199343 Finland Senator Ukraine Lancelot
1:0
October 15, 2015, 05:08 PM 0
199303 Finland VoK Finland Senator
1:0
October 14, 2015, 03:03 PM 0
199249 Finland Senator Italy Sbaffo
1:0
October 12, 2015, 07:45 PM 0

[October 15, 2015, 03:48 PM] Ukraine Lancelot: i will bw in #AG 15-20:00 GMT time

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Offline GreatProfe

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #60 on: November 02, 2015, 06:27 PM »
GretProfe....... i work from 7 gmt till 15 gmt.. so just choose time.

Berria, I'll be online startin from 20 GMT, see you there!


Hopefully u and Hussar play the last game because it's decisive between Hussar and Csongi.

"Balanced" stands for equal crate probabilities (except for a few weaps), not for equal weapons for both players :P And this cup scheme is not exactly Tom's scheme but very close to it.

Mind tell why u feel the tus scheme is better? Because both get only good weaps so less luck? This comes to dealing with poor weaps (either use the "poor" weaps better or use girders instead).

You quoted well when said "TUS scheme is better because both good weaps". That's what I felt comparated to your scheme. Imo, there's no problem if scheme gives you and opponent a HHG. Shall win the one who use the HHG "better".

Your scheme gives mortars, mole bomb, bat... in the same probabilty of dyna, granny, etc. Those weapons cant be in the same group of the main weapons. You're adding luck in the game when player A collect flame (120 damage) and player B collect mole (15 damage) and well, that's not the point what you're targetting, isnt it?

TUS scheme offers few ratio (0,6%) for awful weapons and this is correct. Obviouslly the scheme has problems but it seems like the best one so far.

Offline Hussar

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #61 on: November 02, 2015, 06:57 PM »
In what day profe? i cant play in tuesday coz EAC. You said hour but not a day.

Offline GreatProfe

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #62 on: November 02, 2015, 07:55 PM »
sorry, I was meaning today (holyday in Brazil), I'm in ag, call me there when you get ready

Offline Chicken23

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #63 on: November 02, 2015, 08:07 PM »
GretProfe....... i work from 7 gmt till 15 gmt.. so just choose time.

Berria, I'll be online startin from 20 GMT, see you there!


Hopefully u and Hussar play the last game because it's decisive between Hussar and Csongi.

"Balanced" stands for equal crate probabilities (except for a few weaps), not for equal weapons for both players :P And this cup scheme is not exactly Tom's scheme but very close to it.

Mind tell why u feel the tus scheme is better? Because both get only good weaps so less luck? This comes to dealing with poor weaps (either use the "poor" weaps better or use girders instead).

You quoted well when said "TUS scheme is better because both good weaps". That's what I felt comparated to your scheme. Imo, there's no problem if scheme gives you and opponent a HHG. Shall win the one who use the HHG "better".

Your scheme gives mortars, mole bomb, bat... in the same probabilty of dyna, granny, etc. Those weapons cant be in the same group of the main weapons. You're adding luck in the game when player A collect flame (120 damage) and player B collect mole (15 damage) and well, that's not the point what you're targetting, isnt it?

TUS scheme offers few ratio (0,6%) for awful weapons and this is correct. Obviouslly the scheme has problems but it seems like the best one so far.

I totally disagree. Your points are the exact problem with TUS scheme. It just becomes blast wars, you may as well play full wormage lol.

This scheme gives equal chances so you learn to play well with bad weapons. Its possible to over 80 damage with a mortor and plop worms with bat. Molebomb is great in sd when it can dig through griders and cause enough damage to finish off a low powered worm once its health has gone down after the nuke.

This schemes bring T17 back to its originals of learning to play aggressive or defensive based on the luck of the cr8s and generates better skilled T17 players as you have to learn all the weapons and not just rely on powerful weapons and lightside aggressive games.

Sometimes i wish Uber was still active to back me up as he was a very well respect t17er who had the same philosophsy as me in this scheme!

Offline GreatProfe

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #64 on: November 02, 2015, 08:19 PM »
I understand your viewpoint but times change and T17 as I have played since 5 years ago is all about having a good usage of weapons you collect, have territorial domain and kill your opponent faster as possible because when SD comes, water gives a new game perspective.

The experimental scheme, for me, is boring and luck-based. Mortar and mole arent good weapons for a battle at all. They should be banned of the scheme, also suicide bomb and the revolver too. That's my viewpoint. Anyway, I'm always open for changes that increase motion and fun for the game :)

Offline Senator

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #65 on: November 03, 2015, 09:07 AM »
Ok time to start KO stage. We had ties in groups 1 and 3 so head to head results decided. Mega'Adnan advanced because he beat doza and Csongi advanced because he beat both Hussar and GreatProfe.

Quarterfinals deadline: Sunday 2015-11-15

The experimental scheme, for me, is boring and luck-based. Mortar and mole arent good weapons for a battle at all. They should be banned of the scheme, also suicide bomb and the revolver too. That's my viewpoint.

But this is not Shopper where u need to attack each turn. If u get some moles while the opponent gets holys, it doesn't decide the game. You just need to play differently. For me those crap weapons add variation and make the game more interesting because u can't play each time the same way. Btw, suicide bomb is a "super weapon" and its crate probability cannot be changed :P

Offline Senator

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #66 on: November 07, 2015, 06:29 PM »
WhiteRqbbit, when can u play? This Sunday 19 gmt?

Offline Chelsea

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #67 on: November 12, 2015, 03:22 PM »
Quote
[12.11.2015 15:33:51] dt-Chelsea> yooo 
[12.11.2015 16:14:21] dt-Chelsea> u here ? 
[12.11.2015 16:14:34] to #AnythingGoes:  csongi-> playing cs 
[12.11.2015 16:14:46] dt-Chelsea> we have to play t17 cup final  :P
[12.11.2015 16:14:58] to #AnythingGoes:  csongi-> maybe later, g2g soon 

 :(

Offline Csongi

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #68 on: November 12, 2015, 08:48 PM »
wtf is the purpose of that post? ..
"Every day I get up and look through the Forbes list of the richest people in America. If I'm not there, I go to work." - Robert Orben

[avirex`mm] ill rape ur mother
[avirex`mm] twice in the same night
[avirex`mm] and she will ask for a third
[avirex`mm] cuz she's a whore

kins> Don't let girls ruins ur tus games :)


Offline Chelsea

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #69 on: November 12, 2015, 08:56 PM »
Can you play tomorow 15:30 gmt or later?

I cant xD
« Last Edit: November 12, 2015, 09:49 PM by Chelsea »

Offline Csongi

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #70 on: November 12, 2015, 09:54 PM »
nvm
"Every day I get up and look through the Forbes list of the richest people in America. If I'm not there, I go to work." - Robert Orben

[avirex`mm] ill rape ur mother
[avirex`mm] twice in the same night
[avirex`mm] and she will ask for a third
[avirex`mm] cuz she's a whore

kins> Don't let girls ruins ur tus games :)


Offline Chelsea

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #71 on: November 13, 2015, 08:42 PM »
My PayPal -> mariusz.chelsea@gmail.com
« Last Edit: November 13, 2015, 11:06 PM by Chelsea »

Offline Senator

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #72 on: November 13, 2015, 08:46 PM »
"The legendary lucker" won the cup.. something must be wrong in the scheme ;D

Congrats! The prize money will be transferred asap. And ty everyone for participating. Feel free to criticize the scheme!
« Last Edit: November 13, 2015, 08:48 PM by Senator »

Offline HHC

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #73 on: November 13, 2015, 08:47 PM »
 ;D

Congrats chelsea.

Good cup, moar please.

Offline Peja

Re: Cup #800, Team17 Experimental Cup
« Reply #74 on: November 13, 2015, 10:52 PM »
My pay-pal -> mariusz.chelsea@gmail.com

 ;D nice one