Before we go any further I should add this - About maps, I am talking about maps in the TFL map pack only, all other maps are considered either luck based, too random or way too difficult and players use them at their own risk.
Quote from: spleen17 on July 15, 2015, 09:46 AM
This is the problem I have, everything should be written down. The Love rule, the Shadowman scoring and now this Classic rebound rule are not written anywhere (except on an old challenge page in the case of Love, but I don't think anyone would think to look there).
I've updated the Love map rules, for Classic Darts and Classic Crates we will have to write something to explain how to score rebounds properly there as it's quite complicated.
As I said there is nothing we can do about Shadowmans maps not having rules without MIs assistance, however, for example, the earlier query about Shadowmans Sonic map could have been solved by players themselves if they had followed the spike rule, which is the default rule for scoring, which only changes if a maps author writes unique rules(which we would advise against when it comes to targets and their cups).
Quote from: spleen17 on July 15, 2015, 09:46 AM
I would like to suggest that we ask MI to update all map pages so that everything is covered. Or, failing that, at least have some kind of master thread which lists all the applicable league rules for each map. I can start on this later if you like, and post the first draft in our private forum for your approval?
We can get in touch with MI and ask for permission to edit pages, as he won't know what to write unless we provide him with detailed instructions for each map, and even so with him being so busy I would imagine he would give us rights to edit the descriptions ourselves.
A master thread which lists all the applicable rules for each map, by this do you mean general Darts rules or unique map rules? Or even both... Personally I think it's a good idea in theory but I feel it could be useless as we already have all the rules in the Darts scheme page and all the unique map rules on the maps(granted some are missing eg. Shadowmans maps).
However it can't hurt to try it can it?
Quote from: spleen17 on July 15, 2015, 09:46 AMI mean you and Hurz could both go inactive at some point and what would we do then?
All I currently see that's wrong were the rules for "Love" which have been updated now, Shadowmans maps which have not been updated but to be honest they are all straightforward maps, only one with an issue was Sonic, so players use them at their own risk while we figure out how to edit them, the only fully confusing problem I can see is the Classic Darts and Classic Crates maps not fully explaining how rebounds work, apart from these 2 maps I see no reason for anyone not to be able to figure things out alone if they put effort into searching, myself and Hurz are there for when people get lazy or struggle to understand something, but apart from these few things mentioned, everything IS there for everyone to view.
It's simple for me to judge, and simple for Hurz to judge, but for some people it's impossible to judge even if they knew about it, so we will have to brainstorm and figure something out which is simple to understand for those 2 maps.
And when I said "I hope this clears things up for you", that means making you aware of the situation regarding the things you asked and what we plan to do about them, regardless whether you understand or not we WILL fix these problems.
Please do not hesitate to bring ANY other problems to our attention, also i'd like to thank you for the time, effort and level of comittment you are putting into Darts, this is part of the contribution we love in dS
Edit: I just remembered, Hurz told me several times in the past he would try to contact Shadowman about his maps but I guess those attempts failed.
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