criticism of worms olympics

[melbo]

I know it might be a discussion forced and very critical, but I feel the need to talk about it in a site where there are many players of worms and this seems like the right place.
Also this year I played the worm olympics and although I am a player of medium \ low level I noticed, first of all, the decline that these Olympics have taken over the years, as the number of players, but this is justifiable.
Rather, the moderation of worms olympics allows too many noob schemes  hosted and played by some players, and  he doesn't attach much importance to the most important schemes  that made the history of this game: schemes that have more quality.
This is not right for me  and I complain of poor moderation of these Olympics: little reciprocity, many individualism.
I'm glad to know what you think, thank you; (and sorry for possible grammatic errors.

[lacoste]

Moderators have nothing to do with it, its the new generation of wormers hosting all these new schemes, although after checking if what you are saying is true, theres a good variance of old and new schemes to be played plus worm olympics was allways more of a place for shenanigans and testing ground for new things that are unlikely to be hosted anywhere else.

[ANO]

Olympics are moderated and supported on voluntary basis, therefore you should also point the finger at yourself. You should have done something more concrete, like hosting some tournaments and helping with the moderating part of it.

[TheKomodo]

I totally agree with you Melbo, that's why I decided to host a couple BnG Tournaments, but in my tournament a few players complained the rules were too difficult to understand and they thought the rules made playing generally too difficult which actually made me laugh a bit, I specifically hosted this Tournament in a way that noobs would suffer and highly skilled players could enjoy a competitive enviroment, also the a2b rules imo have been the most successful and popular rule set for BnG in the past 10 years, a2b has even influenced how people play other League BnG today, including introducing shotgun, I will help noobs to understand and get better but I won't feel sorry for their lack of skills/ambition to learn.

I also had Zwitter try to tell me how I should run my Tournament lol, telling me I should use Randombot(Umm, hell no lol) and that it's possible for me to cheat if I don't use Randombot, I have used the same format for pairing/proceeding players in Tournaments as I have done since like 2000 and i've never had complaints about the way I do it, it's a completely fair and unbiased system, and this all comes down to personal belief but i've played this game since June 1999, I have no reason to cheat I don't care about winning, I am actually well known for giving free wins if I don't enjoy the game because for me fun ALWAYS comes 1st.

Another thing people were complaining about was "why is there no lucky loser?". Well, to answer that simply - IT'S A COMPETITIVE TOURNAMENT, YOU F**KING LOST!!!, GO INTO THE CORNER OF YOUR ROOM AND CRY THEN GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE!!!! But yeah, I don't believe in Lucky Loser, that only belongs to something like Comet Dodgin.

And I agree there are too many modern luck schemes and unpopular schemes, this isn't Worm Olympics it feels like Worm Special Olympics...

Worm Olympics is a great idea, it's just a shame it's a total noobfest these days, I did enjoy the BnG Tournament though, apart from a few people wanting things to be easier/luckier it was all good

Even in a time of supposedly "low activity" which is something I don't believe, the activity on WA is the same as it's been for past 5-6 years, just people less and less interested in Classic schemes and Leagues, if you do things that people are interested in and enjoy you will get more activity, TRL had the most active Season since 2012 at the same time with WO active and Summer holidays with many players gone, that's a great achievement imo

The next time there is Worm Olympics I will try and help make it more successful, having the right Tournaments at the right time helps this, i'll post more later gtg dinner at parents now.

[melbo]

Olympics are moderated and supported on voluntary basis, therefore you should also point the finger at yourself. You should have done something more concrete, like hosting some tournaments and helping with the moderating part of it.

ano you're right, but I play a little worm olympics because I haven't  much time to play such long tournaments. I'm doing everything possibile just
participating in games when I can.
This doesn't mean that I cannot make a complaint as they can do so many others.

[melbo]

Moderators have nothing to do with it, its the new generation of wormers hosting all these new schemes, although after checking if what you are saying is true, theres a good variance of old and new schemes to be played plus worm olympics was allways more of a place for shenanigans and testing ground for new things that are unlikely to be hosted anywhere else.

I agree that the moderators have nothing to do with it. It 'a generalized reflection

[ANO]

so you complain just to complain... like all italians like to do.
do something more concrete instead of crying.

like helping to plan next winter olympics etc... I can't stand people who cry just to cry. do something

[Peja]

offtopic: ds is something amazing. while activity gets lower in general a new scheme got really popular and has a dedicated active playerbase maintaining own ladders and events on a constant basis. it shows this game still catches people if you come up with something innovative in a passionate fashion.

[Mega`Adnan]

All right everyone! Let's kill WO!!! Brb getting bombs! xD

[melbo]

so you complain just to complain... like all italians like to do.
do something more concrete instead of crying.

like helping to plan next winter olympics etc... I can't stand people who cry just to cry. do something

I remind you that you are too Italian and you don't look much Italian from what you say. I'll try to do something concrete for what I can as you make yourself that you complain of my complaints.
I also am active on tus and worms olympics and partecipating is  just something.

[Triad]

I agree, WO became inactive and uncompetetive. This year UC is #1 but it doesn't feel like a real achievement at all. Because I know only reason why we are #1 is other clans either dropped their activity or simply didn't participate WO while we kept our activity. For example at 2013, fighting to be #5 on standings was more fun than current year.

As ANO suggested, we shouldn't let it be like this on next winter olympics. When time comes, we should plan for tournaments and stuff.

[melbo]

I totally agree with you Melbo, that's why I decided to host a couple BnG Tournaments, but in my tournament a few players complained the rules were too difficult to understand and they thought the rules made playing generally too difficult which actually made me laugh a bit, I specifically hosted this Tournament in a way that noobs would suffer and highly skilled players could enjoy a competitive enviroment, also the a2b rules imo have been the most successful and popular rule set for BnG in the past 10 years, a2b has even influenced how people play other League BnG today, including introducing shotgun, I will help noobs to understand and get better but I won't feel sorry for their lack of skills/ambition to learn.

I also had Zwitter try to tell me how I should run my Tournament lol, telling me I should use Randombot(Umm, hell no lol) and that it's possible for me to cheat if I don't use Randombot, I have used the same format for pairing/proceeding players in Tournaments as I have done since like 2000 and i've never had complaints about the way I do it, it's a completely fair and unbiased system, and this all comes down to personal belief but i've played this game since June 1999, I have no reason to cheat I don't care about winning, I am actually well known for giving free wins if I don't enjoy the game because for me fun ALWAYS comes 1st.

Another thing people were complaining about was "why is there no lucky loser?". Well, to answer that simply - IT'S A COMPETITIVE TOURNAMENT, YOU F**KING LOST!!!, GO INTO THE CORNER OF YOUR ROOM AND CRY THEN GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE!!!! But yeah, I don't believe in Lucky Loser, that only belongs to something like Comet Dodgin.

And I agree there are too many modern luck schemes and unpopular schemes, this isn't Worm Olympics it feels like Worm Special Olympics...

Worm Olympics is a great idea, it's just a shame it's a total noobfest these days, I did enjoy the BnG Tournament though, apart from a few people wanting things to be easier/luckier it was all good

Even in a time of supposedly "low activity" which is something I don't believe, the activity on WA is the same as it's been for past 5-6 years, just people less and less interested in Classic schemes and Leagues, if you do things that people are interested in and enjoy you will get more activity, TRL had the most active Season since 2012 at the same time with WO active and Summer holidays with many players gone, that's a great achievement imo

The next time there is Worm Olympics I will try and help make it more successful, having the right Tournaments at the right time helps this, i'll post more later gtg dinner at parents now.

The fun in a game is  the main thing for me and I insist  much on this,  apart from else.
In moments of leisure I like playing worms and it seems more than fair.

[ANO]

your comments are just about yourself, except for the first one. Propose something for next olympics instead of loosing time and frignare.

write some ideas, some plans... your negativism doesn't mean anything to this community, keep it back.

I

[MrTPenguin]

but I play a little worm olympics because I haven't much time to play such long tournaments. I'm doing everything possible just
participating in games when I can.

Funnily enough, even though TUS cups are "long" and WO tourneys are "short", the time commitment in any given day is the inverse. With TUS cups, you can play one game per week if you like, but in the WO, you have to be there for hours, with only short breaks permitted (over 15 mins afk and you're kicked out, no?). And often the WO forces you to play at a bad time, i.e. too late when you're tired or too early when you aren't fully ready.

[melbo]

However,  I'm going to propose a new plan to involve more players and give more meaning to the wo competition  for next winter worm olympics.
I wish that many (people) participate in this project especially thanks to your advices and participation, thanks.