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Rafka is a very good player. Yes he noob-bashes and he becomes picky when he thinks his opponent is not newbie.  But calling him names like that is not cool. Trash talking must be done when both players have the mind set for it otherwise it is just plain nasty insults. @Komito it certainly doesn't look good on you. Especially for someone who streams and moderates.

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on August 24, 2021, 07:43 PM
Rafka is a very good player. Yes he noob-bashes and he becomes picky when he thinks his opponent is not newbie.  But calling him names like that is not cool. Trash talking must be done when both players have the mind set for it otherwise it is just plain nasty insults. @Komito it certainly doesn't look good on you. Especially for someone who streams and moderates.

I can't really disagree with anything you've said, though Rafka is a special case,  I can explain why my patience was lacking in that situation.

The following is absolutely not an excuse, and I do not want sympathy here. It's merely an explanation of why i've acted without my usual level of calmness i've shown in the past year in debates and arguments.

I was already extremely impatient after dealing with being in hospital every day for the past 9 days now, I spent all day trying to get in touch with my local GP because the doctor at the hospital told me to make an appointment and it takes hours to even speak to anyone. I recently discovered a medical issue which left untreated would result in death, the same thing my brother died from last year. It is affecting my immediate lifestyle and after cutting out certain things i've been quiet grumpy this past week in general.

This is not an excuse, I am not asking for special treatment or sympathy, I knew exactly what I was doing.

Despite all that, i'd still keep a level head on my live streams and on TUS.

Although ONL Discord is unrelated to TUS(Since TUS doesn't have an official Discord channel), most players are from the "Normal" community, so people are organizing their games there. That chat there is not isolated to this singular event with Rafka, this is me losing my patience with Rafka after continously seeing issues with him and having a disturbing amount of players complain about him in private ranging from mild to severe issues.

I am passionate about this game and it's community, people who abuse the system and generally disrespect sportsmanship and the spirit of competition really triggers me, even more so when we have amazing guys like StJimmy, Dario, Mablak, chuvash and others who put time and effort into making these streams so good, my streams would be nothing without the "Normal" community. All that activity and success is because most of them are really nice guys who treat each other with respect and have amazing skills!

Then there is Rafka!

Perhaps I need to rethink my behaviour on that Discord channel, I feel it's a place where we can all vent when we feel frustrated and fed up, i'm not the only person who said "nasty insults", used profanity and got involved in trash talk there. Though the person who posted this clearly has a personal vendetta against me.

While I stand by the decision not to let him play in future events i'm sponsoring with cash prizes due to his poor sportsmanship, I would normally not trash talk Rafka with that much profanity, so from now on, since he is the only person who i've acted with such profanity to, i'll make sure I don't have any dealings with him, and if he happens to take part in other areas of TUS i'll refrain from getting involved with him personally so only other moderators can make decisions about his actions.

I am not going to apologize to Rafka for the message behind what I said because I stand by it 100% even if my life was at risk, though i'll apologize for using too much profanity. Sorry.

I feel bad for how this looks for TUS and I apologize for that, sorry.

Quote from: Donny-Hathaway on August 25, 2021, 04:47 AM

Little ghetto cup
Hosted in the ghetto TUS
Whatcha' gonna do when you grow up
And have to face responsibility?

Little ghetto cup
Your Rafka was blown away
He lost that match against Albus
Don't you know that was a sad, sad old day?
All of your young life
You've seen such a misery and pain
TUS is a cruel place
And it ain't gonna change

Tight bars funny man!

Quote from: Albus on August 24, 2021, 06:10 PM
If I could go back in time, I don't think I would have accepted playing that game again, or I wouldn't have played in the same day, so fast. It turns out that everything was very fast. At the moment I just thought about obeying Komito's decision, without questioning.

See, I think that's where you are completely oblivious to the fact I didn't say you had to play right there right then.

I said you guys can(must) play again, then you immediately beeped Mega`Adnan(You use the @ command to call him), so then we played. From my perspective it looked like you wanted to play that game immediately so I just hosted again for you after saying "I'm in a clanner right now".

In hindsight, there is a chance waiting would have made you feel better, though I don't think you would have been happy either way unless you won, that is just my opinion based on how you've been acting.

Quote from: Albus on August 24, 2021, 06:10 PM
I think it would have been nice if Dario and Komito had consulted me before making the decision.

You had the opportunity to speak out and you didn't.

Nobody forced you to play the game at that very moment, you done that on your own accord.

You could have said something like, "Hold on, i'm not comfortable playing again immediately, can we do this rematch another day?" and I believe Mega`Adnan(based on his behaviour in the past few weeks) would be more than willing to wait, as for me as far as I am concerned you had until the end of the Group Stage deadline to finish your games.

The decision when to play again was up to you and Mega`Adnan, not me. You guys went ahead and played and shouldn't blame me for that.

I've been held against my own will during my childhood and suffered abuse, I know what it feels like to be helpless, forced, to have no power. Please trust me when I say i'd never force you to play a game, you always have a choice.

I appreciate your decision to just play along immediately, though please be aware I had absolutely no idea you felt uncomfortable about this during that time because you didn't speak up, you should communicate your feelings if you have a problem, whether you are asked or not. I can't help someone if they don't show they have a problem.

I promise you there would have been a delay if you said you were uncomfortable at that moment.

Quote from: Komito on August 25, 2021, 10:28 AM
I said you guys can(must) play again, then you immediately beeped Mega`Adnan(You use the @ command to call him), so then we played. From my perspective it looked like you wanted to play that game immediately so I just hosted again for you after saying "I'm in a clanner right now".

I beeped him for him to say his opinion about what happened. In fact, if I was smarter with myself, I wouldn't have played at that time. I was emotionally dumb to play immediately after a fact that frustrated me. People criticize Rafka in the sense that he chooses the best conditions to play (time of day against pros etc.). But if the objective is to win (mainly have fun, but win is important in a competitive scenario ofc), why not gather the best conditions (psychological side, best time of the day etc.) for that? I've criticized Rafka a lot, but sometimes I think he's right about some things.

Quote from: Komito on August 25, 2021, 10:28 AM
In hindsight, there is a chance waiting would have made you feel better, though I don't think you would have been happy either way unless you won, that is just my opinion based on how you've been acting.

Deleting a game after a win is always frustrating, at least for me. Well, it was a cold shower after a feeling of victory. If I had won it would reduce the previous frustration, but not eliminate it. The frustration existed and the past doesn't change.

Quote from: Komito on August 25, 2021, 10:28 AM
You had the opportunity to speak out and you didn't.

Everything went very fast. I just thought about obeying your decision as moderator and trusted your better judgment blindly. Afterwards, talking to other people, I started to think that the decision was not correct. Anyway, if I could go back in time, I would imagine other scenarios: I would ask for more time to reflect on the decision, in order to find out if I would find it better to leave the tournament or continue. But if I continued, I would ask for more time until the rematch, or even propose other conditions, such as instead of Bo3, being a Bo5 etc. But it served as an experience for me.

Quote from: Komito on August 25, 2021, 10:28 AM
though please be aware I had absolutely no idea you felt uncomfortable about this during that time because you didn't speak up, you should communicate your feelings if you have a problem

Yes. There was no way you could have known. And yes, I should have expressed myself better.

In future Albus, if anything happens involving you, or anyone really, i'll make sure to give people some time to think and express their feelings.

It's a relief reaching the conclusion and to accept that we all rushed things and should be more patient/careful in future.

Mablak Vs StJimmy - Tonight at 8pm GMT!

All other Groups already have their #1 and #2 spots. The winner of this game will decide who gets #1 and #2 spots between Mablak and VoK.

Although Mustachio Vs FoxHound has yet to be played, we can advance already and they can play their match later(As they can still win the $10 bonus prize). I have messaged MonkeyIsland just to confirm advancing won't lock the Group Stage.

So after the game is played and reported tonight, we can advance to Knockouts live on stream.

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Adnan: what about Saturday 11th 13 GMT?.

Quote from: Dario on September 06, 2021, 02:52 PM
Adnan: what about Saturday 11th 13 GMT?.

I can play for 1 hour at 13 GMT, then wait for an hour (power outage problem), then we can continue at 15 GMT to 17 GMT without any problems. Then power outage again for an hour (17 GMT to 18 GMT), then I have no problem with electricity for next 4 hours.

I say 18 GMT is good. But since timezone problems, I can do that with breaks in middle.

*** PRIZE POOL UPDATE ***

There will now be a $15 prize for the winner of the Bronze match!

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Congratulations to Mablak for winning the 80hp Cup! What a glorious final it was!

The first 2 rounds are among the greatest strategic games i've ever seen! Mablak pulled off a very clutch move that really changed the momentum of the series.

The remaining players decided to split the winnings more evenly instead of 40 for 1st and 15 for 3rd, we went with the following:

$30 - Mablak
$15 - Dario
$10 - Korydex

Congrats guys!

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I will send out a message to all participants in the following days about the "Best Turn" prize.