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Offline nappy

Re: NNN merging with TUS
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2010, 12:45 AM »
Rofl, it only took one year to realize :)
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/announcements/tnl-game-play/

Offline Albino

Re: NNN merging with TUS
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2010, 10:45 AM »
I wonder why you guys changed your mind.
http://www.normalnonoobs.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=797

Offline Kilobyte

Re: NNN merging with TUS
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2010, 11:38 AM »
I wonder why you guys changed your mind.
http://www.normalnonoobs.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=797

no Albino, that was different case, and even more different 2 years ago.
Two years ago NNN just started.
There NAiL accused the site it has bad functionality, because he cant upload one game, and merging would eliminate this problem.

Here I just wanted to ask TUS about that - and I expect much more answers. I can add only one thing: "About merging - i think it can be too difficult to organize! Guys mentioned we have our own principles, traditions and structure. And before we (we all, TUS and NNN team) start this hard job we all should be sure it is a good and rational step. It is a question of time, probably long time."

Offline GodiTo

Re: NNN merging with TUS
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2010, 01:00 PM »
NNN merging with TUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FTW!!

I just agree ;)

Offline Random00

Re: NNN merging with TUS
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2010, 01:29 PM »
nice idea, if you take your time for the merging. :)

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Offline Camper

Re: NNN merging with TUS
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2010, 01:52 PM »

Offline Ramone

Re: NNN merging with TUS
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2010, 02:06 PM »
Can you count, suckers?
I say the future is ours...
...if you can count.

Look what we have here before us.
We've got the NNNers sitting next to the Cold Fusion boys.
We've got the cFc gang, right by the Destroyers of Power.
Nobody is wasting nobody. That...is a miracle.
And miracles is the way things ought to be.



The problem in the past has been the man turning us against one another.
We've been unable to see the truth, because we've been fighting for ten square feet of ground - our turf, our little piece of turf.

That's crap, brothers.

Caaaaaan you dig it?

Offline TitiO

Re: NNN merging with TUS
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2010, 03:33 PM »
will be nice  ;)

Offline Ivo

Re: NNN merging with TUS
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2010, 03:50 PM »
I think the main reason for this thread should be for benefit of the Intermediate scheme and, by consequence, the WA overall community.

NNN is not a common clan. They are a clan that represents a whole and important part of the WA community. I really respect their history and all that they did for Intermediate scheme. But we can't live being completely faithful to the past traditions but we should adapt to our present, keeping the future in mind.

So I think that NNN should stops to have their separate site and, probably forum, and merge it to TUS. Why? To achieve a much high number of people playing, seriously and in a high level, the Intermediate scheme. Among other reasons. I'll try to explain.

Open Normal League (ONL) acitvity is not doing bad. At least, their admins are not unhappy with their activity, but I'm sure that, being Intermediate lovers like they are, they would like to have as much activity as possible. I think that is a real important part of what define the success of the ONL. Quality of the game, can be bring by consequence of the higher activity. So, to be clear, with this merge, we all could aim for a significant higher activity for the Inter scheme.

People, by default, are lazy to deal in a daily basis with different sites, systems, building a nice profile in different systems, etc and they tend to be faithful only to the system that they like more. Unfortunately or not, the design and the looks are a major reason in our nowadays world. It's my opinion and despite some contrary opinions, I think its consensual that the majority of WA players prefer the TUS design than the NNN site.
Also, the Intermediate scheme is a wonderful scheme, but others are too and, they could achieve and aim to have more TUS regular people that like so much or more, other schemes to play an Inter league just because it is hosted in TUS site and they are familiar with it.

You could say, but TUS already had the TNL and it was not successful. But it's not hard to understand that it happened due to ONL existence and because it kept their main and real pros players. Also because, an Inter league should not be played with some other regular ranking TUS league. The ladder ranking system of ONL is almost perfect for an Inter league. This is hard to explain, but if you play it for some time, you will understand it.
If we look from TUS Inter cups, we see some TUS regular players that play in it, that usually don't play at ONL. For ones who are yet with doubts that ONL at TUS could achieve a significant better activity than ONL has nowadays, think that if TUS didn't organizes TEL but it was NNNs who would hosted an Elite league at their site. Am I the only one that thinks they wouldn't have 1/4 of the acitvity that TEL has now? I think not.

There was a time where different separate communities existed with their own separate leagues. But please, it's very important, check this stats: http://stats.worms2d.info/. Did you noticed that since 2002/2003, the number of games hosted was constant but low until the middle of 2007, and after it had a great grow until 2010 and stabilized during 2010? This grow can be due to different reasons but,  for sure it is also due to TUS appearance. It happened when TUS appeared and started to pump. So, this is another proof that with a single but global domain, for all communities and competitions, we can achieve a great success for the WA overall community.
NNNs are a clan that are used to decide their own life and they represent a very important part of the history of this game, such as in the present. So, the afraid of a lost of power to decide the format and whatever they think that could be good for Intermediate scheme, is completely understandable. I don't defend any merge! But a merge that preserve the singularities of the NNN clan and the all Intermediate community. The ladder ranking system should be the same or as much similar as possible, they should kept all the power and control of any Intermediate competition, like kick an asshole that would appear at that competitions for example, their own part of the forum with their respective private section. Aswell as many many things. Kilo and MI should plan and manage it carefully to store all data that are at NNN site and forum, etc etc.
It would give a lot of work, probably it could not be perfect, but for sure it would be worthy and the outcome, as an Intermediate player and a WA player, would be great!
« Last Edit: December 27, 2010, 04:41 PM by Ivo »

Offline Albino

Re: NNN merging with TUS
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2010, 04:48 PM »
I wonder why you guys changed your mind.
http://www.normalnonoobs.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=797

http://www.normalnonoobs.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=686

That's not an answer. Look what I have wrote long time ago about worms at CWT forums, lol.

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Worms is one the most unique games I have ever played.I don't think I can stop playing this.It's kind of illness,lol.

Offline Zemke

Re: NNN merging with TUS
« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2010, 05:20 PM »
I wonder why you guys changed your mind.
http://www.normalnonoobs.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=797

http://www.normalnonoobs.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=686

That's not an answer. Look what I have wrote long time ago about worms at CWT forums, lol.

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Worms is one the most unique games I have ever played.I don't think I can stop playing this.It's kind of illness,lol.
We've not changed our mind, we're simply asking what people of the TUS community think since we've heard only some of them talking about the merge so far.

Offline DarKxXxLorD

Re: NNN merging with TUS
« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2010, 05:21 PM »
Junction will be good idea.
One big site WA!  :)

PS If probably to overcome the big inconsistencies... ???

Offline Koras

Re: NNN merging with TUS
« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2010, 05:37 PM »
Rofl, it only took one year to realize :)
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/announcements/tnl-game-play/
I wonder why you guys changed your mind.
http://www.normalnonoobs.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=797

If U ask me i didn't change my opinion about it.
Its actually Ivo idea who is not nnn member anymore.


Offline beer

Re: NNN merging with TUS
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2010, 06:09 PM »
i never played NNN, but i alwys repectd those clan/league cose i know that they are part of WA, a big part of it..

well, even if i dnt give a f@#! about wa, tus, ... anymore i would say, this sounds really good for evryone that still play and wanna stay playing for long.

also, i can say thats not possible since most of u guys, that can make this possible are not humble. As we see, this thread is full of drama and shit, and soon will start the flame war..

im the one who loves, drama, flameage, and shit but!, in my eyes there are still 'seriosly' stuff, like this.

pls, use a win - win relation... :
« Last Edit: December 27, 2010, 06:11 PM by beer »


drama queen iz back