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Quote1. some things make you happy in the short term, but miserable in the long run.
and what if bigger goals are worth suffering in the short run? after all, we prioritize long-term things all the time. we save money and invest, we avoid drugs, and so on

Keep in mind, I believe everything has meaning, it is just a matter of perspective, and it is entirely subjective.

You say ''what if bigger goals are worth suffering in the short run?''? Am I wrong to assume that this thinking is associated with expectation and what society expects from you as Individual? If a person fails at their goals, it still has brought meaning to their character. If you have no expectation, there will be no disappointments.

Quote2. why exactly happiness should determine our purpose? this has a well-known ending, called hedonism.
i'd say happiness is just a criteria of life's quality. but it cannot fullfill life's meaning

I am sorry that you can't find meaning in happiness. But I do, it is a matter of perspective. If you know something that makes you feel good, you would wish to continue this. Btw, I am not talking about drugs.

Quotei'm agnostic, i don't believe it, but I don't deny it either. it's simply beyond subjective experience

Wouldn't it be nice to unite with people or something you had close relation to after you die? Just put religion aside and try answer honestly.

Overall, I think your thinking is unhealthy but I think also it Interesting purely out of academic purposes.

@Impossible

For a lot of people religion brings them purpose. You don't have to believe in God either, but the Importance of God rather. I advice you to watch some of the Fireside Chats by Dennis Prager. He articulates this way better than I.

I am glad to know you find life worth living. The fact you are alive and is able to search for why, is enough meaning to life. That is your foundation it seem, to look for meaning and the why. In my case I already have meaning and why.

You are right, life is suffering. But there's meaning in suffering as well. You can give in and call it a day or you can live to the best of your ability. No matter the circumstance, there is always meaning. You just have to know where to look. The Path of Evil? The Path of Good?

I have a few questions for you
- Does something make you happy? IF yes: Then that's something wroth pursuing because it has meaning.
- Do you want to be right that there is no meaning? Yes, I am aware you searching for meaning, but I ask this question because your research thus far seem to have brought you further away from what I call ''reason''.
- Do you believe in eternal nothingness after death? IF so, do you want to be right about that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lieJIxJZs1M

Some people, particular religious people, argues that if there is no God, there is no meaning. In addition, even if you don't believe in God, the Importance of God is necessary. Because with belief of something greater than you, there lies a meaning.

What I am about to say to you now Impossible, is not meant to be Insulting and offensive. Your perspective depresses me. It is a viewpoint devoid of hope and meaning. I would be extremely depressed if I thought like this. Personally for me, meaning comes from gratefulness, and with gratefulness comes happiness. You cannot be happy if you are not grateful. An ungrateful person is not a good person. I am a person who appreciate the tiniest of things, I find meaning in them, an aspiration for gratefulness. There lies meaning for me.

A while back ago I made an appreciation thread for MonkeyIsland, because I wanted to show him my gratefulness to him. Sure I haven't donated but he doesn't ask people, but he I think he understands anyway. 

What I am about to share now, might be controversial to some of you, and if a Mod wishes to delete this link, they can, but it would be a shame.

I find great meaning in Dennis Prager's FireSide Chat. He is very pragmatic, easy going, and doesn't lecture. He just sits and talks about whatever. Scroll through the page, maybe you will find a video or two that might interest you.
https://www.prageru.com/series/fireside-chats

Quote from: Impossible on October 30, 2024, 10:47 PMpersonally, i'm stuck searching for meaning.

it has been going for years, since i was a kid. i've read all the philosophy and religious books, and I haven't really found an answer. all texts try to penetrate the question of meaning, but not one can give a satisfactory answer. and the rest of philosophy has no purpose without the meaning, so it always comes back to that one question. i found answers that satisfied me for months and years, but each one eventually fell apart.
i can discuss this forever. i feel that one day i'll be able to find an approach to this question. but so far, my search has only taken me further from this goal.

Have you read the book Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl?

I highly recommend
https://www.amazon.com/Mans-Search-Meaning-Viktor-Frankl-ebook/dp/B009U9S6FI

I get the sense that this thread is about secular philosophy, and where everything else is looked over.

Who would want a topic on TUS that challenges these viewpoints presented by Komodo and Bloopy? It would be another conversation about science vs religion again, and such topics gets eventually closed.

Now, that doesn't mean I don't understand and share these two people's viewpoints. In fact it makes sense to me too. But, I don't go around thinking about what quantum physics, and what it does around every corner. It doesn't really help and guide me much around in my life, but to know of it.

When it comes to free will, I believe we have it, but only in the confinement of our nature and society.

But it is bo3 though..

My approach to life is to be optimistic, and hopeful for a better tomorrow. To be happy, patient, understanding, and kind, or try to be no matter the circumstance. Not to fall pray to doubt, Ignorance, cynicism, and, nihilism. But to be brave and fight those who wish us harm. And ultimately, to hate evil.

I also love to be curious and grateful about the universe and all the way to the tiniest of things.

In addition I pretty much I live by the golden rule ''Treat Others as They Do''

It's all about character, behavior, and what you do that makes you who you are.

That's me.

With age comes wisdom. Happy Birthday!

The thing is.. I respect women, and I find the Imagery and art of women beautiful.

In my maps, I Included many different kind of women and not all of them are my fancy.

Though what surprises and saddens me, are some hateful comment on some of these women.

But in my latest maps I have zimmered down on the use of women portraits in favor of AI art.

Everything is on discord.
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/worms-armageddon/community-server-the-future-37147/

For now just tell people to use wormnat2.

The source of these photos are from
https://unsplash.com/

I doubt photographs at unsplash are associated with Incel.

A quick search finds this about Incel And I am not sure how this associate with the photos of women on that map or any other map.

QuoteIncel Word History
The term "incel" originated in 1993 from a bi woman named Alana, a college student from Toronto, Ontario. Initially, the term referred to anyone, regardless of gender, who was lonely, had never had sex, or hadn't had a relationship in a long time. Alana created an online forum for these individuals, aiming to provide a supportive community.

Evolution of the Term
Over time, the term "incel" underwent a significant shift in meaning and connotation. As the online community grew, particularly on Reddit, the focus shifted from a general sense of loneliness and isolation to a specific grievance about involuntary celibacy, often accompanied by resentment and hostility towards women and those who are sexually active.

Co-optation and Radicalization
The term "incel" was co-opted by a new generation of online users, primarily young men, who blamed women and feminism for their perceived lack of sexual success. This radicalized subset of incels began to express extreme resentment and hostility towards women, as well as those who were romantically successful. The online forums and communities became breeding grounds for toxic masculinity, misogyny, and hate speech.

Violent Tendencies and Mass Murders
Tragically, this radicalized incel subculture has been linked to several mass murders in North America, including the 2018 Tallahassee shooting and the 2019 Toronto van attack. The Southern Poverty Law Center has characterized the incel subculture as part of the online male supremacist ecosystem.

Current Connotations
Today, the term "incel" is often associated with a toxic and violent online subculture that blames women and feminism for their perceived sexual failures. The original intention of Alana, the term's creator, has been lost, and the term has become a symbol of misogyny and hate.

Key Points
The term "incel" originated in 1993 from a bi woman named Alana, referring to anyone experiencing loneliness and isolation.
Over time, the term shifted to focus on involuntary celibacy and resentment towards women and those who are sexually active.
The online incel community co-opted and radicalized, becoming a breeding ground for toxic masculinity, misogyny, and hate speech.
This radicalized subculture has been linked to violent incidents, including mass murders.
The current connotations of the term "incel" are associated with misogyny and hate.

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Quote from: Kradie on October 16, 2024, 05:14 PMI am sorry that you have this problem. It could be that the AntiVirus picked up a false positive. What AV is it?

Btw, in regards to the ZaR Community: Only people who likes ZaR and one of its scheme can join. You needn't not worry about Invites.

It was strange, beacause i created many schemes here, and i wanted change one thing, sa i copied scheme which i am using long time, loaded in creator, changed one thing and saved, when i wanted download this, av showed me trojan. Its windows defender. btw what is ZaR community?

A community for people who likes roping
https://www.tus-wa.com/groups/ZaR/

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 16, 2024, 05:38 PMNeedn't not? Need not not?  You just told him he has to worry lmao.

HAHAH come on! I meant he shouldn't worry about such nonsense!!   

I am sorry that you have this problem. It could be that the AntiVirus picked up a false positive. What AV is it?

Btw, in regards to the ZaR Community: Only people who likes ZaR and one of its scheme can join. You needn't not worry about Invites.