Why do you have to come back?  Your retirement was going really well.   

Why did you bump this thread?  It was almost dead.....

yeh i posted this right before you told me avi.  im pretty sure thats the same supreme though, sup was from worms2 before geddon.  Kai you should email him, his link is on there, you know german and shit.  Get him to join your warmer club, that guy was the titties at roping.

Quote from: DeathInFire on December 13, 2012, 11:03 PM
Dunno, the style contest is in essence good, but it requires too much man-power in my opinion. There needs to be some automation in place where people can reliable decide what was "better". Of course that is not really objectively possible since many have a different view what is style. But if it would be possible to measure distance, velocity and obstacles crossed there could be a scheme that requires tricks for maximum "points".

Also: If we already can have a portal gun it shouldn't be any harder to determine if a pump was a pump, a shadow a shadow etc.

unrelated, i was talking on fos boards about old worms 2 cases ladder, i looked at the standings, and look who is active:  http://www3.igl.net:81/perl/find.cgi?path=worms2&svr=cgi1&ser=39224&ladder=worms2
Thats not the german supreme right?  He cant still be worming all this time on worms2?  I know your one of the few people that probably remember supreme, kai.

Quote from: DeathInFire on December 13, 2012, 10:55 PM
I don't plan to sit inactive on a roster though.
I want to see who still wants to do warmers the old fashioned way and then see what we can do to make it more popular. Also I plan to make it something competitive without the hassle to get judges.

when is the last time the anu/marco/flowingwater worms style contest happened?  that could be fun again, wormsx style or whatever name marco came up with for it, cant remember.  made for good replays though.

nbr is the official warmer community of tus of people that no longer play the game of worms

you are welcome back whenever you want to be inactive with us again, all former alumni are welcome.  glad to see you are active though.

Next up.....gravity gun?   

Quote from: KoreanRedDragon on December 12, 2012, 06:51 PM
I like how you FoS guys are conveniently leaving out the smiley face at the end of your new favourite quote.

Clearly damage control.

Stop acting like you don't love me Nogard.  I miss you.  This is a sad face ---> 

b2b should play komo for the rights to the name.  Smiley --->

Quote from: ShyGuy on December 12, 2012, 04:50 PM
what an atrocious and ignorant statement.  First of all, we assassinated Hussein and invaded the Middle East for monetary reasons, not safety reasons for the American people.  That was the front we sold.  We invaded for oil and drugs, two of the worlds top commodities.

Shhh.  This is an international forum.  We don't need anyone knowing that the real reason we invaded Afghanistan was for the vast droves of heroin that the government secretly distributes to the ghettos to keep the destitute at bay.

Quote from: ShyGuy on December 12, 2012, 04:50 PM
Who in this country is really suffering?

You bit quoted me, I was making a comparison.  We have it great in America.  I was once homeless and living conditions were quite good.  I lived in a shelter where living conditions were quite good.  I was given clothes, a bed, somewhere to shower, and 3 meals a day.  The shelter even ran a program to get people jobs that were having trouble.  I worked my way out of there into an apartment.  You act like there is no way out of being poor.

Quote from: ShyGuy on December 12, 2012, 04:50 PM
Cut military spending, we already have enough shit to blow up the world 100 times over, why must we keep pumping trillions of dollars into it?

Because other countries haven't cut spending.  To maintain a military that no country in the world would dare challenge costs money, big money.  How many countries are kept at bay because of the might of the U.S. military?  Look at what happened in Georgia a couple of years ago.  You think imperialistic-minded countries might act differently if the U.S. wasn't on their ass?  I'm not a big supporter of the U.S. watchdog mentality, but it does do some good.  Without the U.S. and a few other countries, South Korea would be part of North Korea.  Georgia would be part of Russia.  Iran would most certainly annex a weakened Iraq.  So I take it you are at least with me on the U.S. not helping out other countries when the situation doesn't directly interfere with us?  Because you can't have it both ways.  You can't defend other countries on a budget, you have seen how much the Iraq war cost America.

Quote from: HHC on December 11, 2012, 06:19 PM
If you can afford to give a CEO half a million you can surely afford to give a cleaning lady +100 dollars each month.

On the lighter side, cleaning ladies in our country do very well for themselves, they are hurting the least.  The polish cleaning lady my mother employs drives a cadillac CTS, its an all cash business, so very few of them actually pay taxes.  All while clearing close to $30,000+ tax free.  Sophia is killing it, she's straight balling out.

Oh and the gay frontend.  Forgot about that.  Probably the main reason.

Quote from: KoreanRedDragon on December 12, 2012, 06:18 AM
Just because FoS was yet again able to turn public opinion against b2b, conveniently right before the announcement of the next round of TUS community awards.

Bahahahaha i love you KRD, you know that, but you are nuts.  Until Komo joins FoS, you've missed the boat.  Anyways, b2b wasn't going to be the #1 community anyhow, sorry, if you hadn't noticed b2b has pretty much just been floating while ea has taken the reins.  I think the voting is going to reflect that.  If SPW decided to concoct a plan to make ea the best community, hes certainly doing a damn good job of it.  ea has even managed to avoid a "elite is going to shit" thread, instead they have the best organized, professional worms tourney on TUS.  No idea why im sucking off ea right now, i feel like this post belongs in their forum join thread, lol.

Avirex, however, is a lazy bastard

Quote from: Peja on December 11, 2012, 08:07 PM
well i have some geopolitical questions to the great wally.

u have spoken from an foreign politic based on Isolationism. do you think it was wrong the usa took part in ww2 in europe even the outcome was a big succes? furthermore what do you think about the interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan? Do you think its ok to send military forces to crash a regime which is oppressing  people?

Ahh, Peja.  As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.  You have brought worthy questions to my table, and are deserving of a worthy response.  Since you have requested I slowly bequeath my knowledge unto you, so therefore it shall be done:

U.S. was following isolationist tenets and was as close to true isolationist foreign policy as it ever had leading up to Franklin Roosevelt's declaration of war following the Pearl Harbor attack by the Japanese.  Churchill had been lobbying nonstop for quite some time leading into the U.S. entry into the war to get Roosevelt to join with him in the fight against the Axis.  Roosevelt was steadfast in the notion that the U.S. would not enter the war, falling in line with the wants of the U.S. public.  However, he changed his mind. Pearl Harbor was not a suprise attack. 

In fact, Churchill and FDR were co-conspirators in the greatest turncoat action ever perpetrated on the American people.  At the time, congress and the American people were very opposed to the war, and Roosevelt got all the justification he needed with the Pearl Harbor attack.  Roosevelt denied intelligence to the armed forced in Hawaii about the location of the Japanese fleet and deceived them regarding ongoing relations with the Japs.  He made ready the red cross to prepare for the disaster before it even happened.  The 'devastation' of the pacific navy fleet was a myth, the ships destroyed in the attack were older ships nonessential to the main force of the navy in that region.  FDR had the essential ships put out to sea previous to the attack in preparation.  I forget who he called, but he called someone with the British government, I don't think it was Churchill, mere minutes after being informed about the attack and without any damage reports, and told them that none of the newer ships were in the harbor.  Churchill and J. Edgar Hoover have both confirmed that FDR had knowledge that the Japanese were coming.  He intentionally kept Hawaii in the dark to spark public outrage when the attack happened, knowing that was the only way congress would let him enter the war.  The was in an era where you needed the support of congress to declare war 

That being said, the U.S. entry into WWII was a net positive.  I have no doubt Hitler could have stonewalled Stalin and Churchill without the intervention of the U.S.  The Axis would have dominated all of Western Europe and the Russians were far too poorly organized to ever defeat the Nazis on their own.  One of Hitler's biggest miscalculations was the United States' willingness to enter the war.  FDR did a deplorable thing to get the U.S. into the war, but it needed to happen.  In this case, Isolationism is defeated by the greater good of the largest part of the civilized world at the time.  I would have opposed entering the war, and I would have been dead wrong.  That being said, lets move to your next question:

The invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan were both deplorable.  There as no reason for either, with or without Saddam's supposed weapons of mass destruction.  That's why it is a moot point for me, and my eyes glass over when people argue about Bushs' intentions, and whether or not there was actionable military intelligence on WMD's.  It doesn't matter.  Possession of WMD's in the hands of an aggressive country isn't a crime, we would have turned on Isreal long ago.  Of course, Netanyahu isn't gassing his own people, but still, there was no aggression toward another country.  There is no doctrine that requires the United States to be the watchdog of the world.  Judgement must be applied, and action taken only when the greater good of a large group of countries is at stake, and it wasn't.  Afghanistan is barely a country.  Iraq was downright inept, it's a good thing they invaded Kuwait preceding the Gulf War, because they would have gotten their ass handed to them if they invaded anywhere else.

Alternatively, I approve of strike actions like the one that netted us Bin Laden.  Sovereignty is overrated.  I know that will anger some of the purists here, but one constant of the United States has been a strong military, and that allows us to do whatever the hell we want, basically.  I draw the line short of occupying a country.  People may cry foul about this, "The United States is a bully," and "The US has no right."  We have the right, and its stamped on every serviceman's uniform and piece of war machinery.  It's the universal law of force, and we didn't invent it.  It's been practiced in every civilization from the dawn of time.  Any notion that we have simply moved past it is a fallacy.  Mablak and Shy might want to cut military spending way down, but there's a reason no country has even though about invading the United States in 60 years.  Theres a reason North America is the safest place in the world in terms of armed conflict.  Could you imagine if the US was situated in mecca with its current force?  Would Hezbollah be running skirmishes on our borders?  I think not.  The people that want to cut military spending in half, are the very people that take their absolute safety every day for granted.  I know that is a hard line, but I feel military spending is important to the United States.  Who in this country is really suffering?  I mean, really.  Take a trip down skid row in Mumbai and tell me the soup kitchen line in Los Angeles compares.  The needs of the many have always outweighed the needs of the few. 

Long story short, Peja.  No.  I wouldn't commit the resources.  I'd bomb the shit out of key locations and equip the oppressed as best I could, but liberation of a country rests in the hands of its citizens.  My country was founded on those principles.  Only in situations of world war and/or a threat to the immediate safety of the American people do I order troops to occupy a country.

Quote from: ANO on December 10, 2012, 09:12 AM
Save us from Berlusconi Wally!

We in America would love it if Monti stayed in power as long as possible, its a shame hes stepping down.  Be interesting to see what the populists do in this next election in Italy.  I think Berlusconi saved himself from Berlusconi There is a chance you could see him up there again, hes been prime minister what, at least 3-4 times now?  No reason a little bunga bunga couldn't stop him from a 5th term

Quote from: HHC on December 11, 2012, 01:41 AM
What you also need to realize is that the US cannot compete with the 'East' when it comes to cheap, manual, industrial labour like in the old days. The west can only compete by specializing in high tech jobs, the kind that need real education ánd capital. Both of these are readily available in most places in the west.

Lots of good stuff in your post, but I wanted to share some information.  I did some independent research and it appears that the pendulum is shifting, and that eventually jobs will either come back to the united states or go elsewhere for manufacturing.  Apparently the manipulation of the yuan that the chinese have been doing for years has finally run its toll.  Because of pressure put on them from the United States and other countries because any country that imports products that compete with the Chinese are effectively losing.  They are losing because the Chinese, in artificially driving down the value of their currency, are able to make cheaper products to increase exporting.  Normally all this exporting would increase the raw value of their yuan, but they have been holding it down to basically slaughter the competition in hopes that their monopolistic practices would leave them the sole provider of the cheap labor and industrial output that they have been.  They are basically damaging the living conditions of their citizens as they do this, as the people that profit are the government, as the country has seen itself go from basically a agricultural third world country to a world superpower in the span of half a century.  Basically, the trend is reversing and China is no longer able to hold down the value of their yuan, and firms from the United States are even bringing business back, albeit on a very slow scale so far.  It qill be quite some time before a significant shift is seen, and I am definitely not saying industry will return to pre 1980's levels.  I could write all day on this, as I already have, if anyone is in the mood for some light reading I did a write up on US - Chinese trade relations.  It was supposed to be for a dissertation for my political science degree but ended up being just for my own pleasure.  Instead of posting up a block of text, I attached it if anyone is interested in learning a little bit more, beware though, it checks in at about 2500 words

ChinaUS_TR.rtf

Quote from: Conny on December 11, 2012, 03:18 PM
I never really understood why W:A became the popular one instead of WWP. It'd really make more sense upgrading wwp to the same standard as W:A is now, to be honest.

probably because they are the same game, and wa was way more popular than wwp ever was.  sans wormpot ofc.