I didn't well understood what's saying on the link, but I guess you don't need so much people to do such a thing.

A blitz attack conspiracy well planned would work with a group of 10 people. Even for the twin towers.
They wouldn't be able to find any bomb clues because of the fall of the towers, all the products it contained and the "sand" cloud.

It's as plausible as a terrorist act.

PS: If it really was a conspiracy, what do you think people would say in this current debate ?
Nothing more and nothing less than what we already said. Just cause we don't know, and it's 50-50.

PSS: IMO (this is not objective anymore), government engaged some guys to commit this "terrorist" act (just the planes). Just so they could get petrol access.
Do I have any clues ? Nop, it's just my point of view.

Quote from: HHC on May 09, 2011, 12:25 AMthere's the stories of people being told not to go to work..

To be exact it was the story that a large number of Jews who worked in the twin towers were warned not to go to work that day.

Completely false.  There's no basis in truth for this.

Also, I don't know why you are comparing the 20 July plot to 9/11.  

Are you just trying to show that 'a plan' can be executed with less than 25 people?  But because both mention bombs they become comparable?

I'd like to add to HHC posts, that a plane were supposed to on the pentagon. But for unknown reasons, he himself near it.

It's like a "Look ! They tryed to kill me, I can't be the killer !". But it's just a "try", so it doesn't mean anything.

Quote from: Abnaxus on May 09, 2011, 12:57 AM
I'd like to add to HHC posts, that a plane were supposed to on the pentagon. But for unknown reasons, he crashed himself near it.

It's like a "Look ! They tryed to kill me, I can't be the killer !". But it's just a "try", so it doesn't mean anything.

A plane did hit the pentagon.

I understood that the plane that crashed to the ground was possibly intended for the whitehouse?

So now you're suggesting (rather jokingly) that the crashed plane (Flight 93) was a kind of deliberate error just to make the conspiracy more convincing?

Please explain what you mean before I start getting mad.

Quote from: Cueshark on May 09, 2011, 01:17 AMSo now you're suggesting (rather jokingly) that the crashed plane (Flight 93) was a kind of deliberate error just to make the conspiracy more convincing?

That's it. At least it could be and would fit with the rest.

Quote from: Abnaxus on May 09, 2011, 01:34 AM

Quote from: Cueshark on May 09, 2011, 01:17 AMSo now you're suggesting (rather jokingly) that the crashed plane (Flight 93) was a kind of deliberate error just to make the conspiracy more convincing?

That's it. At least it could be and would fit with the rest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93

There's the wiki entry on flight 93.

Honestly mate.  We're different animals.

I could not disrespect those innocent people like you do.  On so many levels what you write is filth.

If it's genuinely your opinion then I respect it.  But if you're just not thinking about your responses then that is your fault and you deserve rebuke.

we should make some worms movie about this stories: a map with twin towers, some worms working in their office, and some supersheeps as terrorists attacking them xddd

Quote from: Cueshark on May 09, 2011, 12:51 AM
Are you just trying to show that 'a plan' can be executed with less than 25 people?  But because both mention bombs they become comparable?

Both rely on having conspirators in just a few key positions.
And yeah, you don't need to have more than 25 people in on it in order to execute such a large scale deception operation. The link you posted saying the media, the victims, the firemen, the police, etc. etc. need to be in on it is bogus.

Btw, are you disrepecting victims if you think the whole thing is a conspiracy? I dun think so. That's just playing on emotions.


We will never know for sure though. JFK's assassination is also shrouded in mystery and the lone gunman theory does sound a little improbable, but 50 years later we still don't know who really did it.

Quote from: Cueshark on May 09, 2011, 08:27 AMI could not disrespect those innocent people like you do.  On so many levels what you write is filth.

Wtf !? Are you kidding me there ? You really got me angry there.
Because you really think letting as it is, without even trying to find the truth is respecting the innocent who died faggot ? You should be happy not being in front of me when you said that.

I try to help innocents everytime I can and you say I don't respect them ? Seriously, go get a brain & burn yourself.
It's cause of people like you if many good people died. Saying there are horrible to get the world against them. f@#! you, really.

USA had many members of Al-Quaida as prisoners. A single deal and it was done. There is tons of possibilities for a conspiracy. If you prefer keep a veil on it, then do it, I f@#!ing don't mind anymore.

Quote from: Abnaxus on May 09, 2011, 11:34 AM

Quote from: Cueshark on May 09, 2011, 08:27 AMI could not disrespect those innocent people like you do.  On so many levels what you write is filth.

Wtf !? Are you kidding me there ? You really got me angry there.
Because you really think letting as it is, without even trying to find the truth is respecting the innocent who died faggot ? You should be happy not being in front of me when you said that.

I try to help innocents everytime I can and you say I don't respect them ? Seriously, go get a brain & burn yourself.
It's cause of people like you if many good people died. Saying there are horrible to get the world against them. f@#! you, really.

USA had many members of Al-Quaida as prisoners. A single deal and it was done. There is tons of possibilities for a conspiracy. If you prefer keep a veil on it, then do it, I f@#!ing don't mind anymore.

A plane was hijacked.  Some very heroic people put up a fight and helped bring the plane down before it reached it's target.  Their memory should be respected.

Saying that their deaths were planned by an evil government in the name of money is just down right wrong, down right disrespectful and I sincerely believe that you should expect anger in response to such bullshit.

I am sorry if I offended you but you offended me by what you said too.

When I was researching 9/11.  Listening to the phone calls, answering messages etc left by those victims.  It was extremely harrowing to listen to the reality of what those poor people faced on that tragic day.

When I listen to arm chair conspiracy theorists and their wacky ideas it makes me very upset.

You are basically taking all responsibility away from the real perpetrators and putting it where it doesn't belong.

This is filth on so many levels.

Let's not fall out over this.  At the end of the day it's a difference of opinion.  Unfortunately I have personal investment into 9/11 and there is overwhelming evidence that the official story of flight 93 is the correct one.

I'm very sorry for upsetting you.  I was upset too.

Let's just not take this conversation further and we'll avoid falling out over it ok?

Supposing that all of this is real:

First, for me it is the worst choice that Obama can even taken.

Why?

-Osama Bin Laden could has been the worst man in the world, the devil in person,but he was a man. And any man in the world has the right to be judged before the sentence.

And the most important thing: Nobody has the right to decide about the life or death of someone.

USA entered to the house and killed Osama and drop him in the sea. With what right? He was  in other country, the authorities of that country must decide about the people who lives there, not USA. 

USA should has been retired all its army of that countries and leave them in peace. They should expend all that money that expend in the war to social things, to develop their echonomy, to develop their culture.

I've heard in the media of my country people saying that USA always needs to have a super-hero and a super-villain XD. Osama bin laden's image grew up with USA. If USA stopped the war Osama never has made anything.

i'm terribly against the war, and more against THIS war. I can't believe it. It's so
stupid. When i saw a group of americans happy for Bin Laden's death i thought: naaaah! what stupid people, OMG!. This "war" is stupid.

USA; please press alt+f4 of the game. Please God, if you are the hoster of all this game,  if you are the HostingBuddy that allows us to play this game called "life",
write !Kick USA. I want to see: America is quitting from arabic world (reason: kicked by Chanserv).


Second, I've heard in the TV that in the Islamic religion only the people dead in the seacan be dropped to the water, if someone dies in the earth it can't be dropped  to the sea.
I don't know about that religion and if it is true, but if it is true:  FAIL!



And thirst: Good Job USA for killing him! Now al-qaeda is angry and all the world is in
danger .  LOL, killing them the leader is nothing. They are a big group with strong
religious values, they won't dissappear if their leader is dead. All the opposite, they can
get more dangerous and strong now :O, and they will find other leader late or early :O, or
maybe Bin laden can be, since now, his excuse to be more united. They will fight for his
leader's memory :O :O :O !

Cue ur opinion counts but doesnt mean ur right at all. I sincerly dont trust on a a goverment that got rich by stealing black ppl and making them slaves, gets me to think u know...Let's pay some money to a few to win tons of cash, few deads wont matter, number 1 country us wannabe, they have many weaps, they lose money when they dont use the weaps they have made for that long, so this is a good excuse for ppl aproval to go at war and send ppl childs to die while this f@#!ers get richer. Let's send some bombs if ur brown! weird eh? brown ppl always get the worse part we love wars we are good at it persian golf had the best rating on tv that any other f@#!ing program, u remember any white ppl united states have bombed? lol nah germans! lol but only coz they wanted to dominate the world, f@#!  that thats united states job step a side! har i don't believe any shit that the goverment tells me.

@Abnaxus,
You realize you're crossing the line which you used to blame other people doing the same?

Quote from: Devilage on May 09, 2011, 02:35 PM
Cue ur opinion counts but doesnt mean ur right at all. I sincerly dont trust on a a goverment that got rich by stealing black ppl and making them slaves, gets me to think u know...Let's pay some money to a few to win tons of cash, few deads wont matter, number 1 country us wannabe, they have many weaps, they lose money when they dont use the weaps they have made for that long, so this is a good excuse for ppl aproval to go at war and send ppl childs to die while this f@#!ers get richer. Let's send some bombs if ur brown! weird eh? brown ppl always get the worse part we love wars we are good at it persian golf had the best rating on tv that any other f@#!ing program, u remember any white ppl united states have bombed? lol nah germans! lol but only coz they wanted to dominate the world, f@#!  that thats united states job step a side! har i don't believe any shit that the goverment tells me.

That's fair enough.

To me it's not about trusting governments or believing what someone is telling me.  It's about looking at the evidence and deciding what is actually true.

I fell into the trap of believing that the government was behind 9/11.  When I very carefully examined the evidence I changed my mind.

There are lots of example of governments acting badly and committing crimes.  It doesn't mean that there were bombs in the world trade centre or that a missile hit the pentagon.

Hate governments all you want but don't let personal factors decide something is true when it really isn't.

Thats why iam fair with my slaves.

I let them work for me and i even give they 3 meals a day.