I can't be bothered with this pointless and endless debate of opinions.
We are both entitled to our opinions, and cannot come to an agreement Tom, I will answer each of your quotes as quick as I can:
I am the type of person that does not let people insult me, if you are ok with people insulting you, or you can handle it differently, that is your choice, I don't like people disrespecting me, and I will always do something about it.
I honestly think if someone was REALLY REALLY annoying you, to the point it is affecting the fun you are having in a pub, you WOULD change pubs or try and get something done about it, the point is, you would not leave it alone, I know you Tom, you wouldn't let it continue the way it is, something would happen, whether you get into a fight with the guy, whether he leaves, you leave doesn't matter, the point is there would be a reaction and I honestly think you would be lying if you said otherwise.
And yes, I think I should have had a forum ban for some of the things I said, as should you, avi, jeff, nino etc, we all should have, I can accept this because I am man enough to admit when I am wrong, if they are not, and they complain moan and cause MORE trouble through being banned, it just goes to show they can't handle the fact they are acting wrong according to the rules that got them the punishment in the 1st place.
What I said about this is perfectly natural and correct, there are alot of places in the world where if you disrespect and insult someone the way zippo does, it will get you stabbed shot or possibly worse, this is a fact, your opinion to ignore this is your choice, it's life, it's the world, get used to it.
Who cares if it provokes them and makes matter worse? Matters wouldn't get worse if it was done in the 1st place which I believe it should, I play ALOT of other games online actively and I am in guilds and leagues etc with forums like this, and NONE of them put up with anything even close to this much crap, WA is a small and soft community, my point here is, why the hell should we STILL have to put up with people like this after 11 years?
I used my words very carefully with this statement and you haven't even took that into consideration, if you can't be bothered to read my words specifically then I won't bother with yours, but now come to think of it, I personally DO think you are a bit of a coward the way you are acting saying things like let them act like that, ignore them, lets all get alone, I also think you are being ignorant to the way other people think about this situation, i've already said I respect your opinion, I will not look down on you, you will still be my mate, I just think you care too much about how people look at you, if you were to look at yourself, you are having a go at me, because I feel they should be banned, and I am stating my opinion, trying to defend justice here, zippo/crash are the ones who have done most of the bad stuff and the worst of it, yet you stick up for them? And don't say you are not because you are, even if you are not intending to...
You obviously have not read what I have said properly and PLEASE don't try and say you have cuz you have just proved it with this: "So yea, now that saying it doesnt directly effect me after calling me a coward your trying to show how its relative." Even if you read it you obviously do not understand it, because I was referring the way they behave not directly affecting you, not the things I said as an example, to me this is a case of you seeing what you want to see.
Again, you are not fully understanding what it is that I am saying, it IS the same train of thought, not for the actions being made, ie, Raping someone, Mugging someone, Bullying someone or harassing them, acting like a complete and utter evil person, it is the person who witnesses this who shares the same train of thought, for whatever reason, they are too scared, they don't have the guts, they are too simple minded, they don't care, they are not willing to take action for something that is obviously a bad thing and that is what you are doing, you would rather just let Zippo and crash continue to harass people and keep causing trouble, than actually do something about it and try to sort it out, this is what I refer to as being cowardly and selfish, and I totally think you are acting like this right now, I didn't say this is what you are all the time, and I didn't say "pussy" but right now you are showing signs of it, it doesn't mean I don't respect you or anything, so stop thinking things that I haven't directly and specifically or even technically said.
Also on a side note, if you steal something, whether it be stationary from work, or a car, it is STILL STEALING, you can get sacked for stealing at work, grazing also, it is STILL WRONG, and you should STILL BE PUNISHED for it if you get caught, I have stole stuff before from jobs, I fully understand it is wrong and if I had been caught I would fully accept the consequences for my actions, Zippo/Crash have been caught red handed on multiple occasions and yet they go unpunished, it just isn't fair, no matter what your opinion is.
Tom, let's just agree to disagree, there is NOTHING we can both say to come to an agreement on this issue, you have your opinion, and I have my opinion, which I honestly think neither of us are wrong, or right, because the issues we talk about all depends on personal feelings and opinions, and nothing can be proven, however if you continue to post, so will I, because I am persistent enough in the things I believe in.
Lol @ "as quick as I can" <--- That was a pointless statement if I ever made one haha...