Don't You find it funny that Ive thousands of people seen exactly same Visual pattern as pizza has on his sig. Its not a totally subjective Experience either, we know its home. it's just the effect dmt has on everyone who is using it.
"religious" conclusions included.
those are also an effect of the drug.
i think those "experiences" can be pretty useful in establishing a healthy social character.
but if you come across like a shaman guru sitting in front of a computer, i think just this is the case:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xi9bHnjet0
what stuff did you undertake before taking the substance? Unless you were approached at random without notice and total ignorance of the substance you were by definition, conditioned, even if those conditionants end up being irrelevant.
You describa that as if it was super rare. People have the power to have their bodies start growing pimples just because the brain thinks its sick and decides it's true enough. You can have it do that by getting so much paranoid in a no scape place like a plane if you start suspecting someone has a dangerous sickness and it can be contagious.
So why would it be revealing that all of you DMT users see that same pattern? Drugs have the power to affect specific parts of your brain, and the organ is so specific that it has parts governing little things like giving coherence to shapes, or giving a particular pattern to all shapes to all people. Even then, did you guys talk aboutt he shape after thetravel? with other users?
I'll eat my words if you can find a situation, per example, in which 3 random people with no knowledge of the drug took it independently and then were asked to draw what they saw. I wouldn't even be surprised if it's similar, I don't know why you give so much importance to that when things like mentalism and telechinesis can be "emulated" to look real.
Plus, there's cases where people deny seeinga all that etc. I don't see that as much as revelation as you, any other cool DMT stuff?