Team17 has announced Worms WMD

[WTF-8]

How about an optional switch between newer titles' realistic bounces and W:A's illogical bounces, if so many people got used to them? Like the MIN/MAX bounce thing on grenades.


@Lex

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It's extremely immature to comment on something you didn't even bother to look at. Nobody is complaining about post lenght; it's about a person making 2-3 (or even more) posts in a row while he could just edit his previous post.
Imagine this: I look at number of posts in a topic and see it increased by 4 since last time I checked it. I expect those posts to be a part of a discussion, and decide to look at them. Then I find out that all those posts are made by the same person, and each post is consistent of a large quote and a "plus 1" phrase. Do you get this feeling?

[Aerox]

so we're calling new worm titles physics realistic now?

You guys and your vocabulary. Realistic doesn't mean real life like, since when do grenades bounce like footballs or donkeys fall from the sky? Realistic clearly means consistent. There is no consitency in newer worm titles, because there is no physics simulation, just shortcuts. In WA, you can use an explosive weapon like a grenade to get an enemy worm to any place in the map depending how you use/drop the weapon, including onwards and slightly to a side. You could even make him fall on a pixel if you so desired to. There are more angles, there are many more possible outcomes for any given shot.

The shortcuts used in physics of WMD are crystal clear from all the videos. Worms do bounce off vertical walls, that's all, but their speed is irrelevant, the moment they touch the ground they slide for 1 second and stop, it doesn't matter the angle they come flying from or at what velocity they do, it's not consistent, it's not deep, there's no gravity, no weight, no friction. Movement of worms, tanks and such, it's Gunbound like, as if slopes didn't matter.

Compare a game of intermediate in WA to anything similar in newer worm games, it's like comparing chess to checkers, like f@#!ing literally.

[Jonno_Team17]

so we're calling new worm titles physics realistic now?

You guys and your vocabulary. Realistic doesn't mean real life like, since when do grenades bounce like footballs or donkeys fall from the sky? Realistic clearly means consistent. There is no consitency in newer worm titles, because there is no physics simulation, just shortcuts. In WA, you can use an explosive weapon like a grenade to get an enemy worm to any place in the map depending how you use/drop the weapon, including onwards and slightly to a side. You could even make him fall on a pixel if you so desired to. There are more angles, there are many more possible outcomes for any given shot.

The shortcuts used in physics of WMD are crystal clear from all the videos. Worms do bounce off vertical walls, that's all, but their speed is irrelevant, the moment they touch the ground they slide for 1 second and stop, it doesn't matter the angle they come flying from or at what velocity they do, it's not consistent, it's not deep, there's no gravity, no weight, no friction. Movement of worms, tanks and such, it's Gunbound like, as if slopes didn't matter.

Compare a game of intermediate in WA to anything similar in newer worm games, it's like comparing chess to checkers, like f@#!ing literally.

Re: "Physics shortcuts"

=2m8s

Force, motion & terrain angle all taken into effect.

[ANO]

Jonno, do you have some video to see how rope is?

[Aerox]

Re: "Physics shortcuts"

=2m8s

Force, motion & terrain angle all taken into effect.

I took a close look at that video, specially the girder slide from the first shot, and a later shot where one worm pushes (piles) another. Happy to announce things might be not like I think they are

[Jonno_Team17]

Re: "Physics shortcuts"

=2m8s

Force, motion & terrain angle all taken into effect.

I took a close look at that video, specially the girder slide from the first shot, and a later shot where one worm pushes (piles) another. Happy to announce things might be not like I think they are

Thanks for checking the video out and having a look. That video was from an actual match we had with the developers, unlike the 'staged' scenarios used when showing off new weapons etc.

Jonno, do you have some video to see how rope is?

There's snippets here and there, however I'll hold off a Rope Showcase video until all of the ropes have been revealed. Then you'll get to see them all in action

[TheKomodo]

Awesome, it looks like they took some of our advice so far 

I saw the slide you were talking about down the girder, looks promising

Great stuff Jonno(And T17), keep it up!

I guess the finished product will be better but still looks a lot more fun than the previous new titles

[ANO]

so there will be different types of rope... That's curious! Hope there is also something like what we have now. I guess for some schemes having a different kind of rope could be interesting. 

[Peja]

Awesome, it looks like they took some of our advice so far 

I saw the slide you were talking about down the girder, looks promising

Great stuff Jonno(And T17), keep it up!

I guess the finished product will be better but still looks a lot more fun than the previous new titles

i am pretty sure reading this forum had 0 influence on the physics of the title 

[Rabbzz]

so we're calling new worm titles physics realistic now?

You guys and your vocabulary. Realistic doesn't mean real life like, since when do grenades bounce like footballs or donkeys fall from the sky? Realistic clearly means consistent. There is no consitency in newer worm titles, because there is no physics simulation, just shortcuts. In WA, you can use an explosive weapon like a grenade to get an enemy worm to any place in the map depending how you use/drop the weapon, including onwards and slightly to a side. You could even make him fall on a pixel if you so desired to. There are more angles, there are many more possible outcomes for any given shot.

The shortcuts used in physics of WMD are crystal clear from all the videos. Worms do bounce off vertical walls, that's all, but their speed is irrelevant, the moment they touch the ground they slide for 1 second and stop, it doesn't matter the angle they come flying from or at what velocity they do, it's not consistent, it's not deep, there's no gravity, no weight, no friction. Movement of worms, tanks and such, it's Gunbound like, as if slopes didn't matter.

Compare a game of intermediate in WA to anything similar in newer worm games, it's like comparing chess to checkers, like f@#!ing literally.

Re: "Physics shortcuts"

=2m8s

Force, motion & terrain angle all taken into effect.

Anyone else notice the sheep on the rope at 1:50?

[Kradie]

so there will be different types of rope... That's curious! Hope there is also something like what we have now. I guess for some schemes having a different kind of rope could be interesting.

Super Rope, from Worms World Party

Awesome, it looks like they took some of our advice so far 

I saw the slide you were talking about down the girder, looks promising

Great stuff Jonno(And T17), keep it up!

I guess the finished product will be better but still looks a lot more fun than the previous new titles

i am pretty sure reading this forum had 0 influence on the physics of the title 

Don't be so sure of it yet.

My guess is that Team17 has reviewed what made WA so great and taken it into account.

[ANO]

Honestly (until today) I hand't read this thread as I am sure we have only collected delusions after W:A.. Then when I saw the title I thought it was just another bullshit and I didn0t give any chance to it, not even for trolling auhuah

But I think these guys realized the failure of the last worms editions and how damn good W:A was and still is, and they are taking the time to talk with us, to understand what the community needs/wants, and this just because here there is the secret of an eternal game. The potential is very high.

Imagine in few years, t17 will start projecting and building keyboards auhauh hiring Anubis as engineer 

[Sensei]

2:04, if rope physics are so good, do you really think they would cut it after 2 sec? This story reminds me of Swiss cheese. Good luck to those who'll purchase the game.

[Rabbzz]

2:04, if rope physics are so good, do you really think they would cut it after 2 sec? This story reminds me of Swiss cheese. Good luck to those who'll purchase the game.

It will be cheap so why not give it a go. Even if it sucks Ill just tell everyone to buy W:A and see if we can get some new players haha.

As long as the rope has potential ill try stick with it.

[ANO]

2:04, if rope physics are so good, do you really think they would cut it after 2 sec? This story reminds me of Swiss cheese. Good luck to those who'll purchase the game.

Jonno said:

There's snippets here and there, however I'll hold off a Rope Showcase video until all of the ropes have been revealed. Then you'll get to see them all in action

and give them a shot.. maybe they are holding the release because they saw already our complaints auhuah