Quote from: skunk3 on August 01, 2021, 08:38 PM
Why do you like arguing nonsense? Why do you feel that you must try to 'win' any conversation you engage in? This post has absolutely nothing to do with you but as always, you make it your holy duty to argue because you have no life.
You are the one that goes out of his way and comes here every year complaining, I enjoy discussing the positives of this game and it's community, while you dwell on your own subjective negatives. This entire thread isn't about me, it it literally about your perspective as you are the one who is unhappy and complaining. I am literally giving you information you could use to adapt and enjoy the game more.
Quote from: skunk3 on August 01, 2021, 08:38 PM
I furthermore have no idea wtf you are talking about when it comes to me acting ignorant and selfish towards people.
Of course you don't, that is literally the definition of ignorance. Thank you for proving my point.
Quote from: skunk3 on August 01, 2021, 08:38 PM
"Worms Armageddon history doesn't dictate what active means" - you. Why the f@#! would it not? You make no sense.
"Why the f@#! would it not?" - The definition of the word "active" has absolutely nothing to do with this game or it's past.
Quote from: skunk3 on August 01, 2021, 08:38 PM
The fact that the game is active is not "literally a fact." That's just... wrong.
It is literally a fact that this game is active, this is not a debate.
Quote from: skunk3 on August 01, 2021, 08:38 PM
I shouldn't have to organize an external site/forum/channel to arrange games.
Yeah skunk, blame the rest of the world for your lack of effort, that'll teach them!
Quote from: skunk3 on August 01, 2021, 08:38 PM
If people spent half as much time actually playing WA as they do lurking in such places, the game would be way more active and fun. People need to take that activity/chat to AG and make the game feel more alive. Then again, that's just my opinion.
You sound like a dictator, people generally don't like dictators, they sound like dicks.
It's the same attitude I had while complaining about b2b not being as active as they used to be, blaming everyone else, instead of realizing they were all moving on doing different things, have different attitudes and I was stubborn.
Since then i've moved on, became more open minded, adapted, and feel much better for it.
Quote from: skunk3 on August 01, 2021, 08:38 PM
Playing with random/noob players isn't fun, personally. They either quit or pose little to no challenge. Where's the fun in that, when the outcome is a foregone conclusion?
This is the exact kind of attitude i'm talking about... Hopelessly negative...
This absolutely sucks that I have to go here and use my own history though I will to prove a point, the only reason i'm going there is because you constantly go there comparing yourself to other people.
Nobody that I know of has ever considered you a top player at anything, you've always said you have no interest in Leagues so unfortunately we don't have League statistics to prove how low you are compared to the top players. Which is ridiculous as you constantly complain about not enough challenge yet you always avoided the very thing which presented the best challenge in the entire history of the game - Leagues.
Saying funners are just as serious is complete faff, there is never any pressure because nobody remembers who won and who lost, there are no playoffs, no records, nothing, without this pressure it's too easy.
You view "noobs" and "strangers" as posing little to no challenge, and quite honestly I look at you the same way regarding roping schemes.
You're too slow in Big RR and TTRR to beat any highly skilled player, you're too slow to win WxW on the longer maps that the highly skilled players play on, Roper is 50/50 and your best chance where even the best can lose to much lesser skilled ropers if the crates are lucky enough.
When it comes to Warmer, guys like myself, Mablak, Anubis, SaltyK9, Shadymilkman, Oijogja, Marco, FlowingWater, TheOne, Volrin, Wargod, Ropa, Tenchi, Jmoberg and others were so much more skilled than you, faster than you, more consistent than you,
Since you like to talk about how much "more active" WA used to be, back then you wouldn't be considered a threat in statistically recorded competitive games such as you find in a league.
The way you view other people as being little to no challenge can be compared to the difference in highly skilled players against you simply because you weren't on their level.
Look at this page -
https://worms2d.info/Warmer, look at the notable players, is your name there? No.
This is all irrelevant though, i'd still play with you because it's fun just to play against other people regardless of how skilled they are! You will never improve if you don't push yourself.
Yes while you can learn and improve by playing better players in more challenging scenarios, you will also improve in roping schemes simply by challenging yourself and pushing yourself further, trying to beat your own previous performances, this is something you can do alone, so you can definitely do it with any other players regardles if they are better than you, or worse than you.
Playing with random players and noobs contribute to keeping the schemes we like and cherish active. Nobody is an expert at anything the first time.
The mere fact that you write off strangers and noobs does not help the situation you so desperately want to improve... To put it simply, your actions contradict your wishes.
Quote from: skunk3 on August 01, 2021, 08:38 PM
Also, a lot of them barely speak English so there's that also.
They don't have to speak English to play the game.
Corujao even has a translator app installed on Discord so we can have a perfectly fine conversation about various things even though his English isn't great.
That guy is a inspiration! More people could benefit from imitating his enthusiasm!
Quote from: skunk3 on August 01, 2021, 08:38 PM
I don't mind playing with newcomers in a teaching context but for general gameplay fun it just doesn't work.
People get better with practise, practise can be achieved through casual gameplay, that is fun to a lot of people!
Quote from: skunk3 on August 01, 2021, 08:38 PM
Also, the list of games you claim to see hosted is far more variety than what I see whenever I get on.
Do you actually hang around a lot though? Do you only come on at specific times? Do you try different timezones?
To be honest I have absolutely no idea how long you wait for games, how you look for games, or what times you pop in on, as for me, I sit with 2 computers on so I can monitor #AG and Discord on my laptop, while playing other video games, studying, or watching something on my PC.
So not only do I constantly find games to play and enjoy them, while i'm in an active game i'm looking for and organizing games for when i've finished the current game in advance!
A lot of people these days organize games with their friends or specific interests via apps like Discord, welcome to the future.
The game is more active in the hours that are during early morning or late night for you, we all agree that your timezone is about the most inactive, though there are still ways you can find more games, or either host them yourself and learn to appreciate noobs.
Quote from: skunk3 on August 01, 2021, 08:38 PM
Hardly anyone hosts ropers aside from Kradie and his silly ZaR ropers or those Zillians hosting w2 ropers. I haven't seen anyone host a BnG in ages, nor a Bungee, Darts, Elite, TTRR or Warmer. Those basically never get hosted.
Well, I started playing again about a week ago and i've already played a healthy amount of BnG, Big RR, TTRR, Hysteria with various people already, not to mention i've hosted a successful Tournament for the alternative to Intermediate scheme "80hp" earlier, which has some of the best players in the community like Dario, Albus, Rafka, Korydex participating, we even Mablak commentating and he is eager to join the 80hp Cup!
I've hosted several BnGs late at night in the past 2-3 nights and it's mostly people who have never played before, I don't even complain about them throwing sitters and 5s shots without LG or minimum bounce, it's just nice to see them play for a while, even if they quit because well, I have no mercy and I absolutely destroy them lol, some of them are inspired by seeing top players blow their minds, and when they are treated with respect and friendliness while witnessing something awesome, they are more likely to stay and ask questions and take it up as a hobby.
I've hosted almost a dozen Big RRs myself, and saw dozens more hosted via HostingBuddy and manual hosting.
Even in the past month i've seen multiple Darts games reported, and saw a few casuals hosted, although this is one of the least active schemes of all i've mentioned.
I've only seen a couple Bungee Races, though that is generally one of the least popular schemes ever.
ZaR Roper is still a Roper scheme, and it's a good scheme, w2 Roper is in my opinion the best "Roper" variation and the w2 guys are incredibly good!
Looking at the general activity of TUS in the past month alone:
Intermediate, Elite, Team17, Roper, Big RR, Darts, Abnormal, Aerial, Bungee Race, Kaos, Mole Shopper, Forts, Golf, WxW, Jetpack Race, BnG, Mine Madness, i've actually stopped scrolling now and that was only down to 19th July. That's like, just in 2 weeks.
Quote from: skunk3 on August 01, 2021, 08:38 PM
I never said that just because I don't like something then it doesn't exist. That's stupid and you're simply being disingenuous for the sake of winning an argument...
I never said you did say that, so you are acting stupid there for thinking I did.
Read it again, carefully:
"You are not more important or better than everyone else, just because you don't like something doesn't mean it doesn't exist."
The point is that you don't like all those things that you've literally just went ahead and said you don't like or don't want to do or feel like other people should make the effort, and that does not mean the game is not active. Such things as using Discord to organize games, playing Challenges offline.
I don't care about winning an argument, I care about telling the truth and challenging your constant negativity, and i'll never stop challenging your constant negativity.
Quote from: skunk3 on August 01, 2021, 08:38 PM
All I want is what is best for the game - more in-game activity, more of a feeling of community, etc. I want old school players to actually boot up the game and play. I am not unhappy that new people are discovering the game and playing... in fact, I think it's great. However, what I don't like is logging on to WormNET and seeing almost nothing but randoms from Bumf@#!istan who keep hosting and joining the same handful of beginner schemes. I am glad that when *you* join AG you seem to see so much more activity and variety than I do. More fortunate timezone in general, I guess? All I know is that most of the time when I have a chance to play, the game isn't nearly as active as you make it out to be, and the scheme variety is also far more limited. Just sayin'.
To begin with, there is absolutely no need for that racist and homophobic comment regarding what country someone is from and the sexual act you used as a play on words.
What is best for the game is very subjective depending on who you ask.
Let's say we're talking about activity and worthy challengers as those are 2 of your most repeated complaints over the past few years, added to the fact you just said you want more of a feeling of community.
Like, please explain to me how you hope to achieve that by not wanting to play people based on their level of skill and lack of understanding English?
You know what, there are lots of players from various countries whose English has improved over years of playing videos games and interacting with English speaking players.
You also don't need to speak another language to compete in TUS.
Not only are you unfortunate because of your timezone, you make things 10x worse by just being the way you are.