Are there any 'must have' PC games out nowadays?

I'm always looking for something to play but can never find anything interesting. For the record, I'm not into 'battle arena' type games, the vast majority of first-person shooters, most MMORPG's, sports titles (except racing), etc.

What is good nowadays? I want to play something new but every time someone suggests something to me IRL it looks dumb as f@#!.

Quote from: Perfect on June 01, 2019, 11:48 PM
Waste of time? Get out of here! How many of you were inspired by WA to learn to upgrade your PC, build a website, learn to script, design digital art, and write (literary) about worms.. and there's much more too. Build comradery anybody? Esprit de corps. That's the good old stuff. WA inspires and continues to do so. If you play the game and take something away from it, then where's the waste?

I remember when Anubis built that one site, community.. thing. Can't remember. But i remember the idea and community behind it. I'm sure i wrote about it somewhere.

HHC and his RR Tourneys.. or something tourneys. Its been a few years. Skunk3, TheWalrus, Thekomodo, and the ideas and experiences they put down. Oh, and Rabbzz something spelling too.

And etc.

Waste of time? No.

Hey Perf!!

Just to be clear - I'm not saying that W:A can't be a lot of fun and I didn't have lots of great times playing. What I am saying is that now that I am older I wish that I would have spent far less time playing Worms and instead invested more time into doing more productive things. I think my attitude would be different if I physically lived closer to other players and had the chance to make friends, hang out, and grow to know them well over the years but that never really happened. I've never met anyone from this game and the vast majority of people who I got to know really well from playing with each other for so long all eventually disappeared, and as time marches on, memories fade. I can barely recall details of peoples' lives after playing with them for many hundreds of hours, and I highly doubt they remember much about me. It's kinda 'dust in the wind' at this point and fairly bittersweet.

tl;dr - had loads of fun, but if I could do it all over again i'd spend more time polishing up my real life skills than worms skills

I can't imagine wanting to listen to some W:A background music while driving.

Personally I don't care if 3.8 ever gets released because I think the game is fine the way it is, aside from HostingBuddy/WMDB issues... plus I don't think 3.8 is going to bring back any old schoolers anyway, to be honest. What bugs me is knowing that there is a patch out there that is supposedly complete or near complete and having no idea when or even if it will be released. If not, just let us know. If yes, give us an occasional update as to what is going on and try to provide a best guess regarding ETA. That's all I am asking for. We've heard rumors about 3.8 for a VERY long time now.

If there is a realtime mode ever implemented in the future, I'd like it to be sophisticated enough to not merely be all players taking turns at the same time, but editable to a degree. For example, in a 3 vs 3 match each turn is one player from each team.

I am neither being nihilistic nor cynical. All I am saying is that gaming excessively is bad.

As far as the number of "professional" gamers - even if you included streamers it would still only be a fraction of a percent of the whole. 99.9%+ of gamers don't make any sort of money from gaming, especially not enough to live off of.

As far as me talking about wealthy people goes, I was just responding to Komo's point. Being wealthy is always better. Most of the problems we have in life are from not having enough money and the stress that comes from that. Sure, some people can turn to lives of excess when they become rich but that isn't necessarily the case. Anyhow, I never argued that poor people love gaming and rich people don't. That's just simply not what I said at all.

It doesn't matter if you "receive good" from doing something you like (gaming). If you are gaming excessively that is a problem, period. It doesn't matter if it makes you happy. Just because something makes you happy, that doesn't mean it's good just as something making you sad doesn't mean it is bad. Keep in mind that I am not talking about merely playing video games, I am talking specifically about excessive gaming. As far as what constitutes 'excessive,' who knows? I would personally define it as playing 3 or more hours per day, 5 or more days per week. Also, people tend to conceal mental illness because they don't want to be judged or treated differently. A lot of people can present as being perfectly fine when they aren't at all. I think that if excessive gamers were honest and open the vast majority would admit that the reasons why they game so much is because they are depressed, lack social skills, lack ambition, lack friends, are lazy, aren't good with the opposite sex, etc... some mixture of these and other reasons. Nobody who is truly happy and well-adjusted plays video games all day every day.

So do we have any sort of a solid ETA regarding 3.8?

From what I've heard, 3.8 has been more or less 'finished' for a very long time now. Personally, I'd be fine if 3.8 never came out but I just want to know what the deal is, definitively. I hope that people don't assume that I am 'entitled' by what I am saying, because that isn't the case. I'm a patient dude but the wait for 3.8 has been absolutely ridiculous.

Quote from: TheKomodo on May 16, 2019, 02:15 AM

Quote from: skunk3 on May 14, 2019, 07:24 PM
This subject is entirely opinion-based.

My opinion is that playing W:A and gaming in general is a waste of time... but that is not to say that I still don't do it. I don't see anything wrong with gaming a little... like a couple of times a week for a relatively short amount of time. If you are gaming every single day for several hours per day that is a HUGE waste of time. The older I get the more I recognize gaming as a waste. There is usually something else that could be a better expenditure of time: cleaning, studying, practicing a sport or instrument, exercising, socializing, visiting family/friends, working on art, etc.

There have been times in my past in which I gamed every day for 6+ hours. Work, sleep, gaming. No life. That is no way to live. Excessive gaming like that is a sign of depression and a lack of social ties. Real life is far more important than any game. I think that as long as you are being productive in life and feel generally happy there's nothing wrong with playing W:A or whatever else for a couple of hours every once in a while as a way to relax and have a little fun. I've seen a lot of people try to justify their excessive gaming using a variety of excuses/explanations but I am confident they are just trying to gloss over the fact that they are suffering from depression and are using video games as a coping mechanism.

Time is a very finite resource and as people get older I suspect that MOST will come to the same conclusion that I have. That said, I think that gaming is *slightly* more justified in winter months in which the weather sucks, but even then there's still lots of other things that people can do with their time.

It's similar to drinking alcohol. If you're drinking every single day excessively, that's a problem. If you drink a little bit 2-3 times a week that's not a big deal. Think about it: A day is comprised of 24 hours. If we sleep roughly 8 hours per day, that's 1/3 gone. If we work 8 hours a day on most days, that's 2/3 of your time gone. Between sleeping and working that leaves us with roughly 8 hours per day in which we are to do all of the things that we need to do... and the more time one spends gaming, the less time they are investing towards all of the other things in life, even basic stuff like cooking meals, showering, shopping, etc.

I'm glad you put "entirely opinion-based" before all that 

Some of what you say is somewhat contradictive 

"If you are gaming every single day for several hours per day that is a HUGE waste of time"

Then you say:

"There is usually something else that could be a better expenditure of time:" - "practicing a sport or instrument"

I mean, it's entirely opinion based, so it's subjective.

However I am curious, please elaborate on why doing one thing you like excessively is worse than someone else doing something they like excessively? Isn't the end result of happiness more important than the source of happiness itself?

Also, what if one actually had a career in gaming? So they play 8-12 hours a day 5+ days a week, and make enough money to do what they want in their spare time?

Then what if someone wants to pursue the pre-mentioned path of a professional career in gaming, but in order to do this they need to spend all their available time grinding away to fulfil that desire?

Your example of alcohol is pretty absurd as well lol, why alcohol? Gaming is nothing like alcohol lol, a person can drink 8 hours a day 7 days a week and be dead within months, even weeks, that doesn't happen to a person playing a game, doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out... The only major similarity you can put between alcohol and gaming, is that they are both extremely addictive towards specific types of people, but not everyone!

What if someone comes from an extremely wealthy family, they don't need to work, they don't need to clean(they have a maid or whatever), they have dinner made for them, they shop online, it doesn't take long to shower/bathe, at least if you're a guy lol.

I mean yeah, it's a huge waste of time to you, and from your perspective people who game excessively are a problem because they aren't looking at life from your perspective, they don't value the same things you value, if they aren't harming you, or others, don't worry about it.

It's quite normal for people to think other people waste their time, but when you start talking like they have a problem, they could do something better with their lives, they aren't doing what "they need to do" as opposed to the gospel by skunk3, quite frankly that is a form of bigotry and it's slightly condescending as well, it makes you appear to know better than them, and that your life holds more value.

Like I said before, if they aren't harming you, or others, and they seem happy, don't worry about it 

Edit - I won't deny, people that endanger their health, don't wash, eat too much junk, let their teeth rot, their muscles become weak etc, that kinda thing is not good really, but again if they are happy, and accept the consequences, and realize them, who are we to say it's bad?

I'm just saying some people can play most hours of the day each week, and still live healthy lifestyles.

Not all activities are equal. Doing some certain things excessively isn't as bad as doing other things excessively, but a point could be made that doing ANYTHING "excessively" is bad because excess in general is bad. Just because gaming makes someone happy, that doesn't necessarily mean that it is a good thing. I, of course, am talking about excessive gaming, not occasional gaming.

Very few gamers are 'professional' gamers. Like 0.00001% probably... so there's no point in bringing that up because not only are they extremely rare, they also game for a living so that is their job. Therefore, gaming for them isn't a waste of time because it is profitable enough to be a job.

Also, most people aren't super wealthy and have everything done for them, and people who are wealthy like that probably have cooler things to do than play video games for hours and hours every single day. Why excessively game if the world is your oyster? I dunno about you but I'd rather be riding a jet ski by some tropical island or travelling to some exotic locale than sitting on my ass playing video games like a potato.

I am not worried about anyone's gaming habits. I'm just expressing my personal opinion on the matter, and my opinion is that gaming for several hours a day every day is not healthy mentally or physically, and my opinion is derived from personal experience. It's not bigotry or me feeling superior or more wise than anyone else. To me it's just basic common sense that if your life is imbalanced like that, it's problematic. Those with gaming addictions always try to justify their behavior with arguments that gravitate towards points such as:

-I'm not harming anyone!
-It makes me happy and being happy is a good thing!
-What makes gaming worse than other past time activities?
etc...

For me those are weak, bullshit arguments and I suspect that those who present them also know they are bullshit but they still want to defend their lifestyle. It simply isn't possible to "play most hours of the day each week, and still live healthy lifestyles." I have never met anyone in my life who excessively games who was NOT depressed or mentally unwell in some way. Not once.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with gaming. I love it. I've been a gamer since the 80's. However, it shouldn't be what you spend nearly all of your free time on. As I said before, time is finite (and the most precious thing we have) and there's so many other things that people can do that add real value and richness to their lives. I'll be 39 this November and if I am extremely lucky I'll have another 40 years to enjoy. I want to make it count, and IMO playing video games excessively is pissing your life away.

So what is the most recent news regarding the new patch? There has been news of 3.8 being released "very soon" for ages now. Can anyone explain what the hold-up is?

I briefly spoke to CS about 2 weeks ago and he said that it should be coming very soon and that he was going to be transferring servers or something.

All I know is that we have been waiting on this update for a ridiculously long time. I made a post similar to this maybe 6 months ago (?) and still nothing has happened. Is it vaporware? Is it ever going to actually happen? Is there some sort of financial hurdle? Is the problem on Team17's end? I just want some clear answers and a clear ETA.

What, precisely, is the problem here?

This subject is entirely opinion-based.

My opinion is that playing W:A and gaming in general is a waste of time... but that is not to say that I still don't do it. I don't see anything wrong with gaming a little... like a couple of times a week for a relatively short amount of time. If you are gaming every single day for several hours per day that is a HUGE waste of time. The older I get the more I recognize gaming as a waste. There is usually something else that could be a better expenditure of time: cleaning, studying, practicing a sport or instrument, exercising, socializing, visiting family/friends, working on art, etc.

There have been times in my past in which I gamed every day for 6+ hours. Work, sleep, gaming. No life. That is no way to live. Excessive gaming like that is a sign of depression and a lack of social ties. Real life is far more important than any game. I think that as long as you are being productive in life and feel generally happy there's nothing wrong with playing W:A or whatever else for a couple of hours every once in a while as a way to relax and have a little fun. I've seen a lot of people try to justify their excessive gaming using a variety of excuses/explanations but I am confident they are just trying to gloss over the fact that they are suffering from depression and are using video games as a coping mechanism.

Time is a very finite resource and as people get older I suspect that MOST will come to the same conclusion that I have. That said, I think that gaming is *slightly* more justified in winter months in which the weather sucks, but even then there's still lots of other things that people can do with their time.

It's similar to drinking alcohol. If you're drinking every single day excessively, that's a problem. If you drink a little bit 2-3 times a week that's not a big deal. Think about it: A day is comprised of 24 hours. If we sleep roughly 8 hours per day, that's 1/3 gone. If we work 8 hours a day on most days, that's 2/3 of your time gone. Between sleeping and working that leaves us with roughly 8 hours per day in which we are to do all of the things that we need to do... and the more time one spends gaming, the less time they are investing towards all of the other things in life, even basic stuff like cooking meals, showering, shopping, etc.

Your best bet is to find an ISO of the original WWP and play that instead. The 'remastered' Steam version is a buggy, unoptimized mess.

Jesti

Whatever the default dx9 one is. I played with some various settings and I enabled "wait for assisted v sync" (or something like that) and now the game seems to work perfectly. I dunno if the issue stems from the fact that I now use a TV hooked up via HDMI to my laptop or not. Before I was just using my laptop screen.

It sure won't be long before that alias account is banned.

I have been inactive on W:A lately but in the last couple of days I've jumped on and tried to play some Big RR. During the games I am getting a bunch of screen lag... so much that it's causing me to fall a lot. It's even choppy/laggy when it isn't my turn. None of the other games I play have performance issues like this and before I went inactive I didn't have this problem, and I don't think that I've uninstalled + reinstalled since then. I am really stumped. I've even tried turning off other apps in the background and it made no difference.

FWIW, I am using Windows 10 and my specs are obviously far more than enough to run W:A lol.