Nah skunk, I agree with you on some things but ropa is right when he says the physics of WA do indeed have more depth than other Worms titles.

I am not saying the other titles are wrong, they just seem too random at times, i've played most of them and I did enjoy them, but they are only enjoyable for a few weeks then they get boring because they lack the depth WA has.

This is what I am afraid will happen to WMD because it seems they aren't interested in the things we know for sure make the game better.

Quote from: Komito on June 01, 2016, 12:09 AM
Nah skunk, I agree with you on some things but ropa is right when he says the physics of WA do indeed have more depth than other Worms titles.

I am not saying the other titles are wrong, they just seem too random at times, i've played most of them and I did enjoy them, but they are only enjoyable for a few weeks then they get boring because they lack the depth WA has.

This is what I am afraid will happen to WMD because it seems they aren't interested in the things we know for sure make the game better.

I like the idea of a new worms game, but is WMD the best title name?

Komito, Aerox, you do realize that the most of W:A's depth come from countless glitches and physics weirdness? "add more depth into next Worms games" sounds much like "add more glitches" in this context

I refuse to debate with anyone on this subject unless they are incredibly good at roping AND incredibly good at intermediate.

it's a big waste of time for all of us involved unless you meet those requirements

any shot in WA has many more outcomes than in any posterior Worms games not called WWP; depth. Learning curve. Gaming 101. If you wanna get a reply, get a gripe first.

(I've been following this thread but never posted in it before.)

They said it would come out in "early 2016", but alas it hasn't, so now I'm Waiting for Mankind Divided instead.

They have probably payed attention to the community. Ergo WMD has been pushed back.

Quote from: Kradie on June 01, 2016, 11:26 AM
They have probably payed attention to the community. Ergo WMD has been pushed back.

why would you ever believe this, or what's worse, why would you ever say it?

Quote from: Aerox on June 01, 2016, 11:28 AM

Quote from: Kradie on June 01, 2016, 11:26 AM
They have probably payed attention to the community. Ergo WMD has been pushed back.

why would you ever believe this, or what's worse, why would you ever say it?

I try to keep an optimistic point of view

Quote from: Aerox on June 01, 2016, 10:51 AMI refuse to debate with anyone on this subject unless they are incredibly good at roping AND incredibly good at intermediate.

Aerox, proof us that you are incredibly good at roping AND incredibly good at intermediate/standart in both W:A and newer games, then we may listen to you.

who is we

Quote from: WTF-8 on June 01, 2016, 11:35 AM

Quote from: Aerox on June 01, 2016, 10:51 AMI refuse to debate with anyone on this subject unless they are incredibly good at roping AND incredibly good at intermediate.

Aerox, proof us that you are incredibly good at roping AND incredibly good at intermediate/standart in both W:A and newer games, then we may listen to you.

http://worms2d.info/X-Worms/Contest_Chronology

roping-proof: done

Thanks for making me see my 2008 performance again, now I feel so bad. I wish I could time travel back. I am basically back at 2004 and getting worse. I hate getting older.

Quote from: Anubis on June 01, 2016, 03:58 PM
Thanks for making me see my 2008 performance again, now I feel so bad. I wish I could time travel back. I am basically back at 2004 and getting worse. I hate getting older.

I don't know if it is possible for me to watch your replays, you WARM GOD you.

Quote from: skunk3 on May 27, 2016, 03:02 PM
I agree with Lex completely. Teasers are fine and all, but they are wasted on this group of players. Teasers are more for casuals and newbies to the series. What veterans want is solid information. No tricks, no marketing, no surprises. Team17 has a wealth of veteran players who they could recruit to beta test and provide critical feedback to ensure that any new Worms game is as good as it can possibly be... has ANYONE been selected to beta test? I haven't. I signed up on the Team17 website and I've also been essentially spamming the Steam forums for ages, and nothing. Jonno, I want you to post info, but I just want you to keep in mind what kind of crowd you're dealing with. Many of us are in our late twenties to mid thirties, if not older...

I understand that there are things that you simply aren't allowed to talk about. I get that. However, all I'm sayin' is that we already have a Worms game that we love, so in order for us to rally behind a new title, we need more transparency from Team17. I am excited for WMD, but I can totally understand why many others couldn't care less. The last few Worms titles have been kinda crap.. (compared to W:A)

If it's full transparency you want, you'll get that pretty soon. (Vague I know but when the floodgates open...)

Then i'll be able to answer the vast majority of your questions fully and collate informed feedback from yourselves.

Fun fact - you're the only people the Ninja Rope information was given too, by seeing if any of you made predictions on what you thought the expanded arsenal could be it'd give me a good idea on how you'd receive them. There's method to the madness - I also genuinely wanted to share it with you, as a nod to the Rope Pro community.

Just make sure rope working properly (fast enough ) and then you will have a strong base. I think it's 50% success already.. the other half of the success depends on you guys who try to promote the game. The most players who cant stop playing this game were addicted to rope, i would never play this game for years if i wouldn't find a host where some nlf guys were warming, playing trick race.. it was just awesome for a beginner to see that (find some movies on wormtube if you are interested and bored at workplace xd)