Wheel of Fortune Cup #1

FoxHound · September 23, 2023, 01:04 PM

Honestly, I think each scheme should be played the way it was meant to. If it requires bo5, play bo5. the cup is already random and crazy, diversified. The idea is to people have fun and play many different schemes, right? I don't think this cup needs so much balance. It's a random lottery cup, anyway. The winner will be lucky and skillful, and that's all.

Lancelot · September 23, 2023, 02:01 PM

Quote from: FoxHound on September 23, 2023, 01:04 PM
Honestly, I think each scheme should be played the way it was meant to. If it requires bo5, play bo5. the cup is already random and crazy, diversified. The idea is to people have fun and play many different schemes, right? I don't think this cup needs so much balance. It's a random lottery cup, anyway. The winner will be lucky and skillful, and that's all.

In this case, how would you resolve controversial situations when you need to determine who will advance from the group round if the win/loss record is equal?

Imagine this situation, you can take any group of already completed cups with a similar situation. In a group, players play different schemes with different numbers of wins. I'm interested to see your opinion

FoxHound · September 23, 2023, 02:21 PM

Quote from: Lancelot on September 23, 2023, 02:01 PM

In this case, how would you resolve controversial situations when you need to determine who will advance from the group round if the win/loss record is equal?

Imagine this situation, you can take any group of already completed cups with a similar situation. In a group, players play different schemes with different numbers of wins. I'm interested to see your opinion

Roulette or rematch.

Lancelot · September 23, 2023, 02:28 PM

Quote from: FoxHound on September 23, 2023, 02:21 PM
Quote from: Lancelot on September 23, 2023, 02:01 PM

In this case, how would you resolve controversial situations when you need to determine who will advance from the group round if the win/loss record is equal?

Imagine this situation, you can take any group of already completed cups with a similar situation. In a group, players play different schemes with different numbers of wins. I'm interested to see your opinion

Roulette or rematch.

Lol. Rematch? Are you seriously? It's not effective, just like roulette

h3oCharles · September 24, 2023, 06:06 PM

404 win not found

Lupastic · September 24, 2023, 06:08 PM

group 2, Rocket + me both 3/6 stats, tomorrow it all goes down

Lancelot · September 25, 2023, 08:09 PM

Group 2, well done, congratz lupastic and rakieta with reaching the playoffs

Group 3, you have the most inactive group of players at the moment, let's cheer up a bit

Lancelot · September 25, 2023, 08:10 PM

Quote from: FoxHound on September 23, 2023, 02:21 PM
Quote from: Lancelot on September 23, 2023, 02:01 PM

In this case, how would you resolve controversial situations when you need to determine who will advance from the group round if the win/loss record is equal?

Imagine this situation, you can take any group of already completed cups with a similar situation. In a group, players play different schemes with different numbers of wins. I'm interested to see your opinion

Roulette or rematch.

Yes, rematch is possible in controversial situations.
In the next cup, of course

Zalo the moler · September 26, 2023, 10:55 PM

Rematch (in our case, a new scheme) is the most traditional way of solving the same stats in groups. I remember that in Worm Olympics some people would just decide who goes through based on Comet Dodging but that was a bit extravagant.

Winning 2:1 in one match and being eliminated because in another, completely different scheme, to a different opponent, you lost 2:0 is in my opinion a recipe for a disaster and fun killer. If you want fun to be the main factor, let players face each other again if they both win 1 match and lose 1 match (same if they both win 2 matches and lose 2 matches).

The only situation when you should take into consideration players' won & lost rounds is when two already advancing players need to be put on Slot #1 and Slot #2. Because it is such an insignificant factor it shouldn't impact whether players will be eiliminated or not.

I am sorry that I speak as if it was a common knowledge but I remember many cups doing it this way from 2013 to 2018.

Lancelot · September 27, 2023, 08:01 AM

Quote from: Zalo the moler on September 26, 2023, 10:55 PM
Winning 2:1 in one match and being eliminated because in another, completely different scheme, to a different opponent, you lost 2:0 is in my opinion a recipe for a disaster and fun killer. If you want fun to be the main factor, let players face each other again if they both win 1 match and lose 1 match (same if they both win 2 matches and lose 2 matches).

Hmmmm

Do you mean, for such situations, choose separate random schemes as a solution?

It is possible, I would call it "colorless" schemes or "passive" or "penalty" or something like that, which would be chosen by lot at the beginning or end of the draw. Two or three schemes can be chosen at random and placed separately for controversial cases in the group round. The order of play in these schemes for players in the case is not difficult to determine. activity in the group round, for example.

Nice idea. That does not disrupt the draw process and the Cup as a whole. I'll write it down. Thank you

Lancelot · September 28, 2023, 08:05 AM

Group 3 - you have only one game played in the group. Time to wake up :|

Lancelot · October 02, 2023, 06:32 PM

I understand that some players don't play their matches in the group because they don't have tournament value, but...

You sometimes forget why we play here. For fun, of course.

Group 2 is an example for all of us. They were the first to finish their matches and they were great.

There is just over a week left until the end of the timeout.
Please complete your unplayed matches.

I saw your interest at the beginning to participate in this cup.
I don't know if you liked the idea or not. I would like to hear this from each of you.
There are some things that can be improved and I will try to fix everything in a couple of months when I create this cup again

TheWalrus · October 05, 2023, 05:06 PM

Sock, Ledan, and I are tied and need tiebreak, each with 1 win and 1 loss with the other two. Do we replay same schemes? I dunno how you want to do it Lance, but it would be fun to spin the wheel again and do new schemes for tiebreak.

Lancelot · October 05, 2023, 06:12 PM

Quote from: TheWalrus on October 05, 2023, 05:06 PM
Sock, Ledan, and I are tied and need tiebreak, each with 1 win and 1 loss with the other two. Do we replay same schemes? I dunno how you want to do it Lance, but it would be fun to spin the wheel again and do new schemes for tiebreak.

It's a good idea and I'll use it in the next cup, but without Komito's help I won't be able to spin the wheel live.

The only thing I can do is make a video draw without streaming.

TheWalrus · October 05, 2023, 06:31 PM

Quote from: Lancelot on October 05, 2023, 06:12 PM
It's a good idea and I'll use it in the next cup, but without Komito's help I won't be able to spin the wheel live.

The only thing I can do is make a video draw without streaming.

thats fine, i have never had much trouble finding ledan and sock so we should be able to play games quickly after new scheme picks

Wheel of Fortune Cup #1

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Knockout

Final

Bronze Match

Gold

Silver

Bronze

Groups

Group 1

Group 2

Group 3

Group 4

FoxHound

Lancelot

FoxHound

Lancelot

h3oCharles

Lupastic

Lancelot

Lancelot

Zalo the moler

Lancelot

Lancelot

Lancelot

TheWalrus

Lancelot

TheWalrus