Quote from: Sensei on June 15, 2018, 02:24 PM
This community is not cancer. Never was, never will be.

Wrong. (Just look at how people ran off Jonno from Team17, for example!)

There are many people who are absolute assholes around here. As I said, most of them don't seem to post anymore but TUS has been no stranger to cancerous jerks in years past... and the worst part about that is the fact that these twats are often supported in what they say by others in their incestuous clique, or at the very least, nobody speaks out about them. TUS has birthed (or at least further solidified) an 'inner circle' of players who suck the fun out of the game in myriad ways. For example, look at Husk's posts in this thread. That sort of behavior should rightfully be condemned because it is uncalled-for and just plain rude. In fact, if he were a decent person he would apologize.

I don't involve myself with cliques and never have. I play with everybody, I talk to everybody, and I often take time to teach noobs. Too many people on TUS are elitist, condescending, and rude.

Quote from: TheKomodo on June 15, 2018, 03:53 AM
I used to enjoy this game and this community, reading stuff like this makes me glad I escaped.

You should play the game anyway. If TUS irks you, just ignore the site. I largely ignored this site for many years, as you can see by my post count. All in all, there's only a handful of players who I truly cannot stand. Everyone else is fine, even if people can be dicks sometimes. (Myself included.) Most of the people who I dislike the most don't seem to post here very much anymore from what I can tell. I've tried tons of games and nothing keeps me coming back like W:A. I have tried all of the most popular new games and nothing hooks me. W:A is always fun even if I get burned out on it sometimes and need a break. If a bunch of older players came back and started playing frequently it would be even better.

I've been having a lot of fun these past ~2 months or so. My only real complaint is the lack of old schoolers. There's some promising newer players though but who knows if they will stick around. I think my time zone is the main reason why I don't see too many people.

It looks like it would be fun to try but once you find the 'sweet spot' and know exactly what to do every time, it wouldn't be fun anymore. There could also be some sort of a mine baseball game that has target areas at different lengths, with the far ones only being accessible with a low grav, and worth more points.

I don't play league games, but If I had it my way it would be 2 worms per team. First turn can be balls to the wall speed, second turn can be more safety-oriented. I love playing TTRR but in terms of competing, more worms = more chances for someone to have one really good run, even if they plop all of their other worms. I don't like the idea of rewarding recklessness, but then again I am Mr. Safety Rope and prioritize not losing my turn above speed, always. I feel happier finishing all 5 of my worms and not getting the fastest time than only finishing 1-2 worms and winning.

Quote from: Ytrojan on June 10, 2018, 10:49 PM
Sorry for the necro, but I suggest Full Wormage.


Seriously, they can use whatever weapons they want.

This. Newcomers should start with Full Wormage because it's fun and easy for them and they get the chance to try out a bunch of weapons and figure out what they do. After a while they can transition to other schemes like Blast Zone, then to ones with more limited inventories and get into the finer points of strategy. Newcomers could also perhaps give shopper a go eventually to practice up with the rope since it's a pretty simple scheme.

Quote from: Zalo on June 14, 2018, 02:20 PM

Quote from: skunk3 on June 13, 2018, 10:05 AM

Quote from: Sensei on June 13, 2018, 10:01 AM

Quote from: skunk3 on June 13, 2018, 09:27 AM
Besides, I'm not COMPLAINING about anything at all. You don't seem to understand the difference between complaining and stating a preference. I simply said that I do not like playing roper anymore because of the luck / tedium element.

That's why ppl started replying you with so much negativity. You make new thread every time you change opinion about something, and it's annoying cause you change it more often than I switch my underwear.

What on Earth are you talking about? How many threads have I even started on TUS? I BARELY even post to this site, man. Maybe you're confusing my posts to TUS with my posts to Steam forums for other Worm titles? Facebook groups? What is it? For that matter, I don't even change my mind that often, and if I do change my mind about something Worms-related, I try to at least explain why. I don't see how any of this deserves negativity thrown in my face.

1. sensei, you don't need to change your underwear simply because you wouldn't have anything inside it anyway.
2. The guy has made barely 266 posts compared to your cancerous spamming (1970 posts) and you even dare to talk to him like that? That's the reason why people are leaving TUS. Your arrogance is poisoning this place.

Thread time:
3. I loved playing aerial in past. I was fortunate enough to get 1 Gold from Aerial Tournament. Sadly, there was one arrogant streamer with Russian accent who started making a big deal out of Aerials and completely ruined the fun that I had with this scheme.

I've played less than 10 Aerial games ever, but I know that I'm not a huge fan of it. I like Hysteria but for some reason I am not overly fond of Aerial, but I suppose that it could grow on me if I played it more. I am trying to branch out and force myself to play schemes that I rarely play just for balancing and practice. I played a few Elites earlier today and did surprisingly well.

Links for the various W:A Discord groups?

Quote from: Sensei on June 13, 2018, 10:01 AM

Quote from: skunk3 on June 13, 2018, 09:27 AM
Besides, I'm not COMPLAINING about anything at all. You don't seem to understand the difference between complaining and stating a preference. I simply said that I do not like playing roper anymore because of the luck / tedium element.

That's why ppl started replying you with so much negativity. You make new thread every time you change opinion about something, and it's annoying cause you change it more often than I switch my underwear.

What on Earth are you talking about? How many threads have I even started on TUS? I BARELY even post to this site, man. Maybe you're confusing my posts to TUS with my posts to Steam forums for other Worm titles? Facebook groups? What is it? For that matter, I don't even change my mind that often, and if I do change my mind about something Worms-related, I try to at least explain why. I don't see how any of this deserves negativity thrown in my face.

Quote from: TheWalrus on June 12, 2018, 06:50 PM

Quote from: Husk on June 12, 2018, 06:10 PM

Quote from: skunk3 on June 12, 2018, 08:11 AM

Quote from: Husk on June 11, 2018, 07:43 PM

Quote from: skunk3 on June 11, 2018, 12:09 AM
I played my first roper in ages the other day and it kinda reminded me why I stopped playing them to begin with. Years ago I was obsessed with roper and played it non-stop. Now I can't stand them because it's so dependent on crate luck and also there's usually 1-2 hides that are the best on the map and people just stick to the same hides over and over until crate luck determines a winner. These days I much prefer Big RR because there's no luck involved.

Do you guys have any schemes that you used to really enjoy, but don't like playing anymore?

why do u care if ur opponent wins by crate luck? try to enjoy just improving urself, then u'll be the winner, u have a shit mentality. try to enjoy the game than to win, crate luck u can't change but u can always improve

I do play to improve myself. YOU have a shit mentality if you're coming into this thread and making assumptions and generally being a sanctimonious ass totally unprovoked... acting like you possess the correct mentality. Come on man, that's just dick behavior, juvenile, and uncalled-for.

the thing is skunk3, this isn't the first time and not the last time u complain about luck, so yeah, YOU have a shit mentality

even if there was bad crate luck in the 2nd game between you and dibz, there were still 100 things u cuda done better, so instead of looking at luck, look at the possibilities u cuda done better

ofc you try to win, but winning and losing happens, you can't avoid losing, hell, if u want to improve you must fail/lose, you can focus on the bad luck you had, but i think it's more smart to focus on the good things my opponent did to win

you using the intermediate 1 hp sudden death as a example of luck just shows how out of touch you really are, i used to think it was luck aswell, but it's actually skill, you have all the information on your screen and if you pay attention you know when the sudden death starts

overall your mentality is bad, i'd say shit

i was totally with you 100% until intermediate 1 hp argument, this was the strongest cheat in wa2.exe, i really doubt its skill unless you sit there with a stopwatch, its nice to have the vague prompts as to when SD is starting but it really isn't exactly indicative of the exact moment SD starts.

Seriously though Vince, just have fun, this game has no competitive aspect anymore, not like you were active in any league ever, anyways.  Stop taking yourself so seriously man, you seem hyper committed to always being disappointed or let down.  That's no way to live life.

I do have fun. What gave you the impression that I am not having fun playing Worms? The game still has a competitive aspect but it's just not based on leagues. I've never understood why people think that nothing you do in-game matters unless a league score is there to back it up. As far as my league days go, I was never active in TUS at all. By the time TUS was even a thing I was burned out on playing in that way. I told you about this a long ass time ago. I used to play a ton of pre-TUS clanners and singles stuff but that was ages ago. I don't understand what is giving you the impression that I am taking myself too seriously here, or that I am in need of counseling? Go back through the thread. I haven't complained about anything at all. I just wanted to start a topic to get people talking.

Quote from: Husk on June 12, 2018, 06:10 PM

Quote from: skunk3 on June 12, 2018, 08:11 AM

Quote from: Husk on June 11, 2018, 07:43 PM

Quote from: skunk3 on June 11, 2018, 12:09 AM
I played my first roper in ages the other day and it kinda reminded me why I stopped playing them to begin with. Years ago I was obsessed with roper and played it non-stop. Now I can't stand them because it's so dependent on crate luck and also there's usually 1-2 hides that are the best on the map and people just stick to the same hides over and over until crate luck determines a winner. These days I much prefer Big RR because there's no luck involved.

Do you guys have any schemes that you used to really enjoy, but don't like playing anymore?

why do u care if ur opponent wins by crate luck? try to enjoy just improving urself, then u'll be the winner, u have a shit mentality. try to enjoy the game than to win, crate luck u can't change but u can always improve

I do play to improve myself. YOU have a shit mentality if you're coming into this thread and making assumptions and generally being a sanctimonious ass totally unprovoked... acting like you possess the correct mentality. Come on man, that's just dick behavior, juvenile, and uncalled-for.

the thing is skunk3, this isn't the first time and not the last time u complain about luck, so yeah, YOU have a shit mentality

even if there was bad crate luck in the 2nd game between you and dibz, there were still 100 things u cuda done better, so instead of looking at luck, look at the possibilities u cuda done better

ofc you try to win, but winning and losing happens, you can't avoid losing, hell, if u want to improve you must fail/lose, you can focus on the bad luck you had, but i think it's more smart to focus on the good things my opponent did to win

you using the intermediate 1 hp sudden death as a example of luck just shows how out of touch you really are, i used to think it was luck aswell, but it's actually skill, you have all the information on your screen and if you pay attention you know when the sudden death starts

overall your mentality is bad, i'd say shit

When was the last time I really complained about luck? Can you actually cite a time without rummaging through past posts? I honestly can't remember personally but surely it has to be years ago since I've barely posted to these forums in comparison to most of the people on here. (264 posts vs. your nearly 7,000 posts!) Besides, I'm not COMPLAINING about anything at all. You don't seem to understand the difference between complaining and stating a preference. I simply said that I do not like playing roper anymore because of the luck / tedium element. That's it... nothing more, nothing less. Pointing out luck elements in a particular scheme does not equate to complaining. You keep trying to dissect my statements and accuse me of this and that while also being a straight-up asshole and saying that I have a shit mentality. I've said nothing here to have prompted your anti-Skunk tirade and the irony of the whole situation is absolutely hilarious. 



Everyone can always do better in games. You keep making very broad, generic statements / suggestions as though you are telling me something that I haven't considered, as though I don't know how to play the game when I've been around longer than you. Can you understand why this doesn't make any sense to me? As far as the game with Blitz goes, I already said that I made a mistake during the game, so why make redundant, obvious suggestions?

Finally, I am aware that you can strategize in Intermediate for 1 HP sudden death mode. This isn't news to me, I've been playing the damn scheme for ages. The reason why I don't like Intermediate or any scheme with 1 HP sudden death is because once SD kicks in, it makes me feel as though my efforts up until that point have been kinda worthless....basically just positioning. I just don't like that sudden death option. It's not that I can't plan ahead or adjust to it - I just think it's stupid and not fun, therefore I prefer to not play schemes with that sudden death mode. That's not to say that I don't / won't play Intermediate... I'd just prefer to play something else. Am I not allowed personal preference?

One thing that I will complain about is the very nature of what it feels like to engage on TUS with certain regular posters. It is a very high school, clique-y, wolf pack, popularity contest sort of vibe around here, which is why I barely posted to this site or even checked it out for years. The core TUS crowd (some of them, not all) is so incestuous in a manner of speaking and up each other's asses that anyone who isn't a part of that 'inner circle' is seen as an outsider and gets picked on like the new kid in the lunch room, lol. If you don't like me for whatever reason, that's fine, but there's no need to personally insult me or my intelligence unless I attack you first. I think that a lot of people view me in a bad light because of that one time I trolled the f@#! out of TUS for a day or two a long time ago. I find it funny and sad that basically nobody even understood that I was intentionally trying to aggravate people just to see if they would actually get butthurt or of they could identify a blatantly obvious troll attempt for what it is. The humor and ridiculousness that used to be a staple part of the W:A experience has been gone for a long time now, and that's why I think a lot of people don't feel like playing anymore. Furthermore, I personally think that TUS (both the leagues themselves and the 'inner circle') are the primary reason why the fun has been sucked out of the game... and that is not an attempt at trolling, I'm being dead serious.

Cool video. T5X was a very good clan back in the day... Volcom was one of the first beast mode ropers in W:A. There was another Mexican dude named "CoOL" or something like that who was also damn good. As far as AC goes, I only remember QS and Skaters. QS and I used to play all the damn time. As far as peak clanning goes I think the TEA/HoS days were probably the pinnacle but that's just my opinion. LordY/HippY... wwoooo!

Quote from: HHC on June 10, 2018, 04:59 PM
Nearly finished the campaign.

My ordeal: aarghghuaaha

It's always nice to pick up other worms games, just to see what ideas are in it regarding schemes, weaps, maps and all that. Inspiration and what not..

Anywho, Battlegrounds is one of the worst releases. It's basically Worms Revolution (with all the nays of that game (shitty rope, worms and crates falling off cliffs out of nowhere, bugs, etc.), but it has the additional **** of having three different kinds of textures that are REALLY hard to keep apart. Often you find yourself jumping on a chunk of land that proved to be just background texture, other times you try to dig into indestructable land, cause it looks just like regular land  And this happens after 20 finished missions.. it's not a rookie thing.

The missions are dull and uninspired, supposedly the whole campaign plays in a museum, but there is absolutely nothing in the maps that reminds you of that setting. The maps are also identical, no changes in texture, just in map layout.
Also, there are checkpoints on the map that you can enable to save the current state of the mission.. unfortunately it ends your turn.. and sadly, at times you HAVE to pass through them, so losing your turn is not even an option. That's the kind of choices the devs make that I just don't understand. (Same with the addition of anti-darksiding weapons like the bunker buster and even worse Boggy B..)

Rating: 3/10
Buy this for your mother-in-law.

edit: also, no online, and the AI is a combination of CPU5 skills with uhhh.. well.. nothing. If you're in clear nade trajectory it's 40 damage per turn. If you're not.. you might as well take a five hour break and return to find your worm with the same HP. It is absolutely retarded. No words can describe the utter boredom of playing a fort game against a computer that hides in open air on the front side of its fort and that takes 50 turns just to make 3 holes in your fort..

I gotta disagree here. I think that of the post-WWP games, Clan Wars/Battlegrounds is one of the better ones. Reloaded was terrible, Revolution introduced some cool new gameplay elements but it had a lot of bugs and weird problems. CW/BG fixed a lot of issues present in Revolution. While I do think that the terrain/textures can be hard to differentiate at times, I got used to it. I played CW a bit on PC and then switched to BG for PS4 and logged tons of hours. I do agree that the single player side of it sucks though. The single player content in WMD is far better but the AI still isn't that great.

I imagine the game is probably largely dead now but the multiplayer was really fun while it lasted.

Runescape was okay way back in the day but there's no way in hell that I could play it now. I can't really stand any MMORPG's though. IMO the best one was Star Wars: The Old Republic. I've tried most of the others (WOW, Elder Scrolls Online, DDO, Neverwinter, SW: Galaxies, Guild Wars 1 + 2, etc...) I just don't like games that are based on grinding rather than skill. :/

Quote from: Husk on June 11, 2018, 07:43 PM

Quote from: skunk3 on June 11, 2018, 12:09 AM
I played my first roper in ages the other day and it kinda reminded me why I stopped playing them to begin with. Years ago I was obsessed with roper and played it non-stop. Now I can't stand them because it's so dependent on crate luck and also there's usually 1-2 hides that are the best on the map and people just stick to the same hides over and over until crate luck determines a winner. These days I much prefer Big RR because there's no luck involved.

Do you guys have any schemes that you used to really enjoy, but don't like playing anymore?

why do u care if ur opponent wins by crate luck? try to enjoy just improving urself, then u'll be the winner, u have a shit mentality. try to enjoy the game than to win, crate luck u can't change but u can always improve

I do play to improve myself. YOU have a shit mentality if you're coming into this thread and making assumptions and generally being a sanctimonious ass totally unprovoked... acting like you possess the correct mentality. Come on man, that's just dick behavior, juvenile, and uncalled-for. 

While I do play for fun, and for improvement, I also do play to win. I think it's natural to be a little disappointed when taking a loss, especially when luck has anything to do with it. While things like crate luck can piss me off, not playing to my potential pisses me off even more. The other day I played a couple of ropers with Dibz/Blitz, the first ropers I'd played in ages. I wasn't surprised that I lost... I was rusty and Dibz is a very good roper. The first game I lost easily. The second one I nearly won (literally one turn away from winning) until I made a mistake and also had some bad crate luck. I was just commenting on how I used to love roper but now I prefer Big RR because I feel it has far less luck involved and is more interesting in general.

I'm not salty that I lost. I don't take Worms seriously anymore (and haven't in a long time), but that's not to say that I don't want to win. Having fun and playing to win are not mutually exclusive. If you aren't playing Worms to win I don't even see the point in playing, and it's also kinda disrespectful to your opponent. Nobody wants to win because the other guy wasn't trying. If I didn't enjoy Worms I wouldn't play it, simple. I've been on WormNET since day one having fun and wouldn't be still playing basically 20 years later if I didn't find it enjoyable, lol.

To get back on topic, there's certain schemes that I used to find very entertaining but these days I don't really care for them. Roper is one example. T17 is another. It's not that I don't have fun playing T17, I play to win, and if your opponent gets aqua sheeps and other useful items while you uzis and shit, it can be really annoying. Crate luck is why I also like playing WxW's with 1 HP crates instead of random weapon crates. I prefer zook/mine/drill/lg only. Last but not least I have to mention Intermediate. I have fun playing it, but it still pisses me off due to the 1 HP sudden death option... so I don't play it that much anymore.